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From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 05:17 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >> Yet you nitpick him for driving a few mph over the speed limit > > <sigh> Once again, a little more slowly for your benefit. > > No, I "nitpick" him for breaking the speed limit whilst simultaneously > castigating others for breaking the speed limit. > > Either the speed limit is the law and to be obeyed regardless of > conditions, or the speed limit is a guideline and conditions are the > important bit. > > Can't have it both ways. > >> I'd bet that you would do the same, especially if the flow of traffic >> was also doing 32mph?....I do. > > I'm not the one calling others "stupid" for breaking the speed limit. > > There you go again. Yes, Kev is a stickler regarding adhering to speed limits and yes I agree with you that there are times when it is safe to exceed the limit by a considerable amount, but not every driver is as capable of measuring the safe times when to do it. With that in mind, you cannot really knock him for advising drivers to stick to the limits. You must also accept, that having spent so long in the 'force', his mindset will have been influenced by the nasty road smashes that he has had to attend to and seen the macabre results, plus that horrible experience of having to knock on the door of the deceaseds parents etc,to give them the tragic news. Bod
From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 05:22 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >> Not so safe if you happen to have a blowout at that sort of speed. > > Or at 70. > >> Don't say it could never happen because you've got decent tyres on, it >> could happen to anyone. > > True, it might - but so far it's never once happened to me. Has it ever > happened to you? > > How often do you check your tyres for bulges and similar early-warnings > of impending failure? > > Happened once to me about 40 years ago while driving a large Rover 3.5 in Taplow at about 35mph. It was frightening and a struggle to keep the car straight, this was on a bend. Yes, I do regularly check my tyres (even for stones etc). Bod
From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 05:24 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Yet you nitpick him for driving a few mph over the speed limit >> <sigh> Once again, a little more slowly for your benefit. >> >> No, I "nitpick" him for breaking the speed limit whilst simultaneously >> castigating others for breaking the speed limit. >> >> Either the speed limit is the law and to be obeyed regardless of >> conditions, or the speed limit is a guideline and conditions are the >> important bit. >> >> Can't have it both ways. >>> I'd bet that you would do the same, especially if the flow of traffic >>> was also doing 32mph?....I do. >> I'm not the one calling others "stupid" for breaking the speed limit. > There you go again. There one of us goes... > Yes, Kev is a stickler regarding adhering to speed limits No, he isn't. He claims to be - then continually refers to breaking them. But not by enough to be caught. I wonder what'll happen when he smugly bimbles past a camera that's set lower than he expects, or wanders into an area that's having a zero- tolerance crackdown? > and yes I agree with you that there are times when it is safe to exceed > the limit by a considerable amount, but not every driver is as capable > of measuring the safe times when to do it. Then - unless you believe that every limit is always an appropriate speed, regardless of conditions - those drivers are not competent enough to be on the road. Do you believe every limit is always an appropriate speed, regardless of conditions? > With that in mind, you cannot really knock him for advising drivers to > stick to the limits. "Do as I say, not as I do". THAT's what I'm commenting on - it's more formally known as "hypocrisy". > You must also accept, that having spent so long in the 'force', his > mindset will have been influenced by the nasty road smashes that he has > had to attend to and seen the macabre results, plus that horrible > experience of having to knock on the door of the deceaseds parents > etc,to give them the tragic news. Small problem with that theory - he's already explicitly agreed that his opinion is nothing to do with whether the speed is appropriate and safe, only to do with the risk of being caught.
From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 05:24 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Not so safe if you happen to have a blowout at that sort of speed. >> Or at 70. >>> Don't say it could never happen because you've got decent tyres on, it >>> could happen to anyone. >> True, it might - but so far it's never once happened to me. Has it ever >> happened to you? > Happened once to me about 40 years ago while driving a large Rover 3.5 > in Taplow at about 35mph. It was frightening and a struggle to keep the > car straight, this was on a bend. What caused it?
From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 05:28
Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>> Yet you nitpick him for driving a few mph over the speed limit > >>> <sigh> Once again, a little more slowly for your benefit. >>> >>> No, I "nitpick" him for breaking the speed limit whilst simultaneously >>> castigating others for breaking the speed limit. >>> >>> Either the speed limit is the law and to be obeyed regardless of >>> conditions, or the speed limit is a guideline and conditions are the >>> important bit. >>> >>> Can't have it both ways. > >>>> I'd bet that you would do the same, especially if the flow of traffic >>>> was also doing 32mph?....I do. > >>> I'm not the one calling others "stupid" for breaking the speed limit. > >> There you go again. > > There one of us goes... > >> Yes, Kev is a stickler regarding adhering to speed limits > > No, he isn't. He claims to be - then continually refers to breaking them. > But not by enough to be caught. > > I wonder what'll happen when he smugly bimbles past a camera that's set > lower than he expects, or wanders into an area that's having a zero- > tolerance crackdown? > >> and yes I agree with you that there are times when it is safe to exceed >> the limit by a considerable amount, but not every driver is as capable >> of measuring the safe times when to do it. > > Then - unless you believe that every limit is always an appropriate > speed, regardless of conditions - those drivers are not competent enough > to be on the road. Do you believe every limit is always an appropriate > speed, regardless of conditions? > >> With that in mind, you cannot really knock him for advising drivers to >> stick to the limits. > > "Do as I say, not as I do". > > THAT's what I'm commenting on - it's more formally known as "hypocrisy". > >> You must also accept, that having spent so long in the 'force', his >> mindset will have been influenced by the nasty road smashes that he has >> had to attend to and seen the macabre results, plus that horrible >> experience of having to knock on the door of the deceaseds parents >> etc,to give them the tragic news. > > Small problem with that theory - he's already explicitly agreed that his > opinion is nothing to do with whether the speed is appropriate and safe, > only to do with the risk of being caught. > > He associates speeding with danger as well. Bod |