From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 08:11 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>> Well, *those* are the laws and you've just mentioned them. They are >>>>> quite clear, so you or anyone else knows where the lines are drawn. >>>>> What's the problem with the clarity of them then? >>>> There is none. To those who can comprehend the difference between >>>> "the law" and some leeway in enforcing it. >>> But the speed limit laws *allow* a couple of mph over the limit. >> Do they, indeed...? >> >> Care to come up with any authoritative reference to that? > I'll leave that to our resident expert, Kev. Nice cop-out. Here's a clue for you:- ACPO recommendations are precisely that. Recommendations. Not law.
From: mileburner on 1 Jul 2010 11:24 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:893auoF4uuU3(a)mid.individual.net... > You're still being pedantic. The law 'allows' a small amount over the > speed limit. No it does not. I recently researched this and the law is absolute and quite clear. If you exceed the limit by any amount you have committed an offence. The proving of it is the difficult bit and the police normally allow leeway so that the evidence is more secure and that the defendant has less chance of wriggling out on a technicality. Therefore, for the police to take any notice at all, you really do need to be breaking the limit by a fair margin.
From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 11:27 mileburner wrote: > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:893auoF4uuU3(a)mid.individual.net... > >> You're still being pedantic. The law 'allows' a small amount over the >> speed limit. > > No it does not. > > I recently researched this and the law is absolute and quite clear. If you > exceed the limit by any amount you have committed an offence. The proving of > it is the difficult bit and the police normally allow leeway so that the > evidence is more secure and that the defendant has less chance of wriggling > out on a technicality. Therefore, for the police to take any notice at all, > you really do need to be breaking the limit by a fair margin. > > Technically, yes, it is absolute, but in reality, a few mph over and you won't get nicked. It really is as simple as that and not worth arguing about. Bod
From: mileburner on 1 Jul 2010 11:30 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i0hv97$q9s$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > You aint seen nothing yet if the 20mph limit comes in. You think anyone > will > pay the slightest bit of attention to it? Unless they put up speed cameras > everywhere it'll make the law one big joke. I will. I currently generally do not to exceed 20mph in all residential and urban areas with a 30mph limit. If there are no hazards, people cars etc. I do creep up to the mid to high 20's. If there *was* a 20mph limit I would drive at 15 to an absolute maximum of 20mph. I love driving. I want to make it last as long as I can :-)
From: mileburner on 1 Jul 2010 11:42
"bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:893qf5F3dfU4(a)mid.individual.net... > mileburner wrote: >> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:893auoF4uuU3(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> You're still being pedantic. The law 'allows' a small amount over the >>> speed limit. >> >> No it does not. >> >> I recently researched this and the law is absolute and quite clear. If >> you exceed the limit by any amount you have committed an offence. The >> proving of it is the difficult bit and the police normally allow leeway >> so that the evidence is more secure and that the defendant has less >> chance of wriggling out on a technicality. Therefore, for the police to >> take any notice at all, you really do need to be breaking the limit by a >> fair margin. > > Technically, yes, it is absolute, but in reality, a few mph over and you > won't get nicked. It really is as simple as that and not worth arguing > about. The problem is that if a few mph over is perceived as OK, perfectly safe, legal etc. It makes a mockery out of the posted limit and out of the law. Where *do* you draw the line? <rhetorical> That is why everyone should drive below the limit. |