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From: Brent on 4 Mar 2010 18:36 On 2010-03-04, N8N <njnagel(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 4, 10:41�am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent >> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> said: >> >> >>>> Well, that's your choice. But don't be surprised if you get tailgated >> >>>> because of it. >> >> >>>So you're basically saying that I'm obligated to risk speeding tickets >> >> >> Learn to read plain English, and learn to stop putting words into >> >> other people's mouths. >> >> >I'm following along with each of your replies in context with the >> >others. You're the one arguing that those who are tailgated 'deserve >> >it'. >> >> Once again with the words in my mouth. I never used the word >> "deserve," nor did I imply it. I made a simple cause-and-effect >> observation. >> >> >The obvious argument you're constructing is that if I drive the >> >posted limit, I deserve / should expect to be tailgated. >> >> "should expect to be" is the correct phrase. >> >> >This logically means I'm the one doing something (socially) wrong. >> >> Suppose I drove my Corvette down to a 7-Eleven on the South Side, and >> left the engine running with the key fob inside while I ran inside for >> a Slurpee. Is it wrong if someone steals my car? ABSOLUTELY. Should >> this result surprise me? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Can I form an effective >> strategy to avoid having my car stolen in this way? EASILY. > > I can't speak for Brent, but due to various factors that I cannot > control (namely, the combination of grossly underposted speed limits, > constant police presence, and the lack of understanding on the part of > my employer of the fact that the area in which I live in work is > ticket hell) I drive like a freaking Boy Scout. If I'm not obeying > the speed limit, then at least I am the slowest driver on the road, > and in the right lane. Being tailgated is an occasional fact of life, > and I'm unwilling to speed up to accomodate the tailgater and thus > risk a ticket (and possibly loss of my job.) My employer doesn't care about my driving. However tickets get costly fast. Just taking time from work to fight the ticket makes it way too costly. Considering the non-ticketable stuff that I get pulled over I'm not going to give them something they can ticket me for. I'll make them lie if I can. Although ticketing for technically illegal moves done for safety aren't beyond what cops around here are willing to do.
From: Brent on 4 Mar 2010 22:01 On 2010-03-05, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent ><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said: > >>On 2010-03-04, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent >>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said: >>> >>>>>>> Well, that's your choice. But don't be surprised if you get tailgated >>>>>>> because of it. >>>>>> >>>>>>So you're basically saying that I'm obligated to risk speeding tickets >>>>> >>>>> Learn to read plain English, and learn to stop putting words into >>>>> other people's mouths. >>>> >>>>I'm following along with each of your replies in context with the >>>>others. You're the one arguing that those who are tailgated 'deserve >>>>it'. >>> >>> Once again with the words in my mouth. I never used the word >>> "deserve," nor did I imply it. I made a simple cause-and-effect >>> observation. >> >>Go back a few posts. You certainly made it quite clear that people who >>got tailgated were doing something to deserve it. > > Deserve is your term and is inaccurate. > >>>>The obvious argument you're constructing is that if I drive the >>>>posted limit, I deserve / should expect to be tailgated. >> >>> "should expect to be" is the correct phrase. > > Get it yet? > >>> Suppose I drove my Corvette down to a 7-Eleven on the South Side, and >>> left the engine running with the key fob inside while I ran inside for >>> a Slurpee. Is it wrong if someone steals my car? ABSOLUTELY. Should >>> this result surprise me? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Can I form an effective >>> strategy to avoid having my car stolen in this way? EASILY. >> >>And this trimming and bizzaro attempt at analogy is supposed to mean >>exactly what? > > The explanation is as clear as I can make it. If you can not (or will > not) understand, that's your problem. Then exactly what has been your 'point' this entire thread if not that anyone who's tailgated has done something wrong (to deserve it)? You've repeated that enough to make it clear.
From: Matthew Russotto on 5 Mar 2010 19:59 In article <hmklm5$bfj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >And yet you claim to be ticket free for 20 years or some such. It's one >or the other scoupie. How do you suggest I not be ticketed doing 10+ >over? (although usually, I am one of the faster drivers on this road as >it is one of those two lane roads I mentioned previously where most >people in front of me drive under the speed limit) Get the F- out of Chicago. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Brent on 6 Mar 2010 00:38 Another video for scott... http://blip.tv/file/3306844
From: Daniel W. Rouse Jr. on 6 Mar 2010 17:47
"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:gik5p5pdj4nufei3davgigm3f8c1o3jo3r(a)4ax.com... > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent > <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> said: > >>Another video for scott... http://blip.tv/file/3306844 > > He may be a duckling, but he's not tailgating you. > > He's far enough back that you can clearly see his taillights and his > driving lights. That's still too close. Generally speaking, one who is following another vehicle should still be able to see a patch of road in between vehicles. Similarly, one who has another vehicle behind them should be able to see a patch of road in front of that vehicle in their rearview mirror. |