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From: gpsman on 8 Apr 2010 16:13 On Apr 8, 2:59 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wisely chose to avoid addressing me directly and wrote: > > Gpstroll is always going to agree with the government. If I had been caught for the crimes I committed they'd still be printing out the charges. > I do believe him > when he said he was in the empire's legions for numerous years. There is no evidence to suggest I have ever lied... here, anyway. Still, I'm sure the day I don't tell a single lie is a rare thing. See: On the Decay of the Art of Lying by Mark Twain http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2572 > He > demonstrates that 'following orders' mindless stupidity over and over > again. That's "discipline", Sparky. You have to be able to follow orders before you are qualified to issue them. That's what's holding up your battlefield promotion to bird colonel. Well, that, and your presence on a battlefield. > If gpstroll were still in the military he'd likely gleefully run > internal checkpoints demanding to see our papers and stealing our stuff > in the name of "security". I was promoted to management in 23 months, so that isn't likely. > >> > but I doubt > >> > that there's a single traveler that deep down inside doesn't think > >> > about doing the same thing. > >> You're wrong, of course. Obviously and irrefutably Bullisesquely > >> wrong. > > No, you're wrong, and stupid. > > There are a few travellers who like the TSA. They are control freaks who > think they are part of the system. (like gpstroll) They'll learn they > aren't part of the system sooner or later when suddenly they find > themselves on the recieving end of laws, procedures, and/or policies > that they believed would only be used on 'bad' people. BTDT. No system is perfect and my expectations are not based on infinite nirvana fallacies. ----- - gpsman
From: Nate Nagel on 8 Apr 2010 18:20 On 04/08/2010 02:59 PM, Brent wrote: > On 2010-04-08, N8N<njnagel(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Apr 8, 1:48 pm, gpsman<gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > >>> 2. The evidence suggests airport security is not useless. > >> Ah, there you go, having that pesky little problem with those things >> called "facts" again. Can you cite even one instance where TSA >> screening has detected a credible threat before the miscreant boarded >> the airplane? > > Gpstroll is always going to agree with the government. I do believe him > when he said he was in the empire's legions for numerous years. He > demonstrates that 'following orders' mindless stupidity over and over > again. If gpstroll were still in the military he'd likely gleefully run > internal checkpoints demanding to see our papers and stealing our stuff > in the name of "security". > >>>> but I doubt >>>> that there's a single traveler that deep down inside doesn't think >>>> about doing the same thing. > >>> You're wrong, of course. Obviously and irrefutably Bullisesquely >>> wrong. > >> No, you're wrong, and stupid. > > There are a few travellers who like the TSA. They are control freaks who > think they are part of the system. (like gpstroll) They'll learn they > aren't part of the system sooner or later when suddenly they find > themselves on the recieving end of laws, procedures, and/or policies > that they believed would only be used on 'bad' people. > Not *exactly* related, but along the same lines http://duncan.house.gov/2009/06/22062009.shtml if you Farked today you probably saw it nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: gpsman on 8 Apr 2010 18:29 On Apr 8, 6:20 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...(a)roosters.net> wrote: > > Not *exactly* related, but along the same lines > > http://duncan.house.gov/2009/06/22062009.shtml > > if you Farked today you probably saw it "$860 million for people to sit on airplanes and simply fly back and forth, back and forth. What a cushy, easy job." Lol. I have over 1M miles on AA alone as a professional passenger (we made more than pilots, a lot more) and I can assure you, flying back and forth and back and forth is not a cushy job. ----- - gpsman
From: Brent on 8 Apr 2010 18:42 On 2010-04-08, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote: > Not *exactly* related, but along the same lines > > http://duncan.house.gov/2009/06/22062009.shtml "And listen to this paragraph from a front-page story in the USA Today last November: .Since 9/11, more than three dozen Federal air marshals have been charged with crimes, and hundreds more have been accused of misconduct. Cases range from drunken driving and domestic violence to aiding a human-trafficking ring and trying to smuggle explosives from Afghanistan.'' " So 10% or so of the employees were caught... how many of the other 90% just haven't been caught yet? "We now have approximately 4,000 in the Federal Air Marshals Service, yet they have made an average of just 4.2 arrests a year since 2001. This comes out to an average of about one arrest a year per 1,000 employees." As I understand it they spend their time adding people to the no fly list based on their whims. ".For a multitude of politicians, interest groups and professional associations, corporations, media organizations, universities, local and State governments and Federal agency officials, the war on terror is now a major profit center, a funding bonanza, and a set of slogans and sound bites to be inserted into budget, grant, and contract proposals.'' " The terrorists are from within and their god is the federal reserve note.
From: Ad absurdum per aspera on 8 Apr 2010 19:09
> When I dared to challenge, the supervisor came over and told > me, "Yes sir you can have them back and we'll escort you off the > property.". Someone insecure about his authority will project it all the more strenuously. You can see this in lots of places but it can be unusually noticeable at the airport. Additional unsurprising rules: * Security devolves to enforcement of narrowly construed rules and of behavioral norms. * Good guys are safer to chase and easier to catch. That having been said, the guy who made a run for it at LAX is in a dead heat with the foreign diplomat, the one whose whose joke, er, bombed, as we come around the first turn in the race for Thoughtless Jerk of the Month. Heck, if I saw somebody nearby bolt rather than undergo additional screening, I'd probably tackle him myself, on the theory that maybe he was just having a panic attack, maybe was making a statement of protest... but then again, maybe was a bad guy trying to salvage a blown mission. As for the other clown -- never mind the tasteless sense of humor; how about some tasty nicotine gum? Airplanes have a smoke alarm in the can for a very good reason, namely, Flight 797. And to then say things that cause fighters to be scrambled, all because he couldn't wait another hour or so take a drag off his cancer stick -- sheesh! Both were definitely MFFY-tinged incidents even if that isn't the whole story. You can express a problem with a security policy or procedure without causing huge inconvenience for literally thousands of others. --Joe |