Man fined after driving into his own driveway
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From: Bod on 29 Apr 2010 12:44 Nick Finnigan wrote: > Brimstone wrote: >> >> AIUI the law re zig-zags says that one must not park. He wasn't >> parked, he was stopped. > > It says you must not stop (except for specific reasons). > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1997/240001-a.htm (20. onwards) > > Once you have stopped for a good reason (e.g. turning right - > presumably possible in this case), there is no requirement to get moving > promptly. > > Not for "good reasons" but 'Specific' reasons, surely? Bod
From: Nick Finnigan on 29 Apr 2010 12:44 PM wrote: > Nick Finnigan wrote: >> >> You are allowed to stop on zig zags 'for the purpose of making a >> left or right turn'. > > And, presumably, to allow pedestrians to cross. And for many other reasons which are less likely to apply in this case.
From: Ian Jackson on 29 Apr 2010 16:07 In message <Rc2dnQj6AYju_0TWnZ2dnUVZ8mqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> writes > > >"Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message >news:3oadnaOONfmi_ETWnZ2dnUVZ8hudnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... >> On 29/04/2010 11:09, Brimstone wrote: >> >>> You tell me which would be quicker and occupy less police, CPS and court >>> time. >>> >>> Creating a space so that he could reverse into his driveway or nicking >>> him and taking him to court. >> >> "His own driveway" implies he does this quite often. Holding his hand >>once won't help for the hundreds of other times he'll need to do it >>when they're not there - and if they were there, their time would >>swiftly add up to more than that court time you mention. >> >>> You say he chose to be a fuckwit. What should he have done? >> >> Asked their advice, which I'm guessing would have been "Drive in >>forwards or go somewhere else". Then acted on it. > >But where else was he supposed to go? > >> Me, I'd block the road rather than cower on the side of the road >>waiting. Everybody stops, I get out of the way quickly, everybody goes >>again. Better than having a partial blockage for ages. > >I agree. It seems this guy's timidity was his undoing as far as the >police were concerned. > Are you insinuating that the police take advantage of the timid or the weak? Shame on you! -- Ian
From: Ian Jackson on 29 Apr 2010 16:14 In message <mn.ebe57da49b222b17.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk>, Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> writes >Ian Jackson wrote on 28/04/2010 : >> But the report does say that the traffic was heavy, so it was >>probably coming past him continuously, and not giving him any >>opportunity to make his reversing manoeuvre (which would have >>inevitably resulted in the front end of his car swinging out into the >>passing traffic). > >Light traffic would provide opportunities with gaps, heavy traffic >would provide opportunities in that the traffic would no doubt be >frequently coming to a stop. There is never a situation when there are >never any opportunities to make a maneuver, no matter how difficult the >maneuver. > I think you're wrong. Many drivers would wait for a 'natural' break in the traffic. It may never come. Others, after waiting for a reasonable time, would say "Stuff this for a game of soldiers", switch on their hazard warning lights, and slowly (ever so slowly) execute the reverse turn into the driveway, regardless of what the passing traffic was doing. I certainly think that I would. -- Ian
From: Brimstone on 29 Apr 2010 16:18
"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVETHISjackson(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:NjnfSIDAce2LFwEp(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk... > In message <Rc2dnQj6AYju_0TWnZ2dnUVZ8mqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, Brimstone > <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> writes >> >> >>"Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:3oadnaOONfmi_ETWnZ2dnUVZ8hudnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... >>> On 29/04/2010 11:09, Brimstone wrote: >>> >>>> You tell me which would be quicker and occupy less police, CPS and >>>> court >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Creating a space so that he could reverse into his driveway or nicking >>>> him and taking him to court. >>> >>> "His own driveway" implies he does this quite often. Holding his hand >>> once won't help for the hundreds of other times he'll need to do it >>> when they're not there - and if they were there, their time would >>> swiftly add up to more than that court time you mention. >>> >>>> You say he chose to be a fuckwit. What should he have done? >>> >>> Asked their advice, which I'm guessing would have been "Drive in >>> forwards or go somewhere else". Then acted on it. >> >>But where else was he supposed to go? >> >>> Me, I'd block the road rather than cower on the side of the road >>> waiting. Everybody stops, I get out of the way quickly, everybody goes >>> again. Better than having a partial blockage for ages. >> >>I agree. It seems this guy's timidity was his undoing as far as the police >>were concerned. >> > Are you insinuating that the police take advantage of the timid or the > weak? Shame on you! Who me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE It's American but the principles apply everywhere. |