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From: MrBitsy on 1 May 2010 14:10 On 28/04/2010 20:56, Mortimer wrote: > I think I'd probably have driven into the drive and reversed out (with > a "banksman" to stop the traffic), but then I much prefer to drive > forwards into a confined space and reverse out into a wide space where > precision of position is less critical. I am sure there are companies nearby, who you could contact to learn the reversing skill again. I think they are called driving schools. -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 1 May 2010 14:12 On 28/04/2010 16:06, loopy livernose wrote: > > "MrBitsy" <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote in message > news:05adndBuP_oQ10XWnZ2dnUVZ8tJi4p2d(a)giganews.com... >> On 28/04/2010 12:44, Mr. Benn wrote: >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7640563/Man-fined-for-reversing-into-his-own-driveway.html >>> >>> >>> Maxwell Cannon was issued with a �60 fixed penalty notice and >>> informed that he was committing a traffic offence for waiting on the >>> zigzag markings of a pedestrian crossing outside his home in >>> Harrington, near Workington in Cumbria. >>> >>> Mr Cannon, 25, said he was waiting for a break in the heavy traffic >>> to reverse onto his property on August 10 last year and appealed the >>> ticket at West Allerdale Magistrate's Court. >> >> Why could he not wait for a break in traffic off the zigzag >> markings? Is the danger to pedestrians somehow reduced, because the >> car would be going onto a drive? >> > if he was stationary, he was no risk to pedestrians?? You either need the Highway code or the number of the nearest driving school. -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 1 May 2010 14:16 On 29/04/2010 11:09, Brimstone wrote: > > > "Man at B&Q" <manatbandq(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:367e6b57-3b00-4a1f-967f-98ac94b80bb0(a)t21g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... >> On Apr 28, 6:15 pm, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>> >>> news:RLuYI+OndF2LFwVK(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk... >>> >>> > In message <83r289Ffg...(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian >>> > <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> writes >>> >>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjack...(a)g3ohx.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, >>> >>sounding much like they were saying: >>> >>> >>> However, rather than fine him, I'm sure that there was a more >>> >>> sensible >>> >>> solution to the problem. >>> >>> >>Indeed. >>> >>> >>They could have stopped, advised him of the problem, and requested >>> him >>to >>> >>move on. >>> >>> >>Oh, wait. They did. He didn't. >>> >>> > No. What they could have done was to point out to him that, if he >>> > continued to do what he was doing, they would have no alternative >>> but > to >>> > issue a penalty (if necessary, pointing out why this law had been >>> > made). >>> > They then should have discussed the problem with him, and helped >>> him > find >>> > a practical solution which didn't involve him reversing into the road >>> > (which is probably just as dangerous). >>> > -- >>> >>> Indeed, they could have stopped the oncoming traffic for him and >>> allowed him >>> to reverse into his driveway. >> >> If the police spent all their time doing little helpful things like >> that would you be happy? Or would you rather they concentrate on >> higher level crime. They did give him a warning and a fair chance to >> comply with the law. He chose to be a fuckwit. >> > You tell me which would be quicker and occupy less police, CPS and > court time. > The driver to wait for the gap before the zigzags, or to do as others have said - take control by slowing, hazard lights and reversing in when traffic behind has stopped. > Creating a space so that he could reverse into his driveway or nicking > him and taking him to court. > Nicking him, then suggesting he reads the HC. > You say he chose to be a fuckwit. What should he have done? > Drive safely. -- MrBitsy
From: Brimstone on 1 May 2010 15:15 "MrBitsy" <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote in message news:qt2dnbwBj8hq8kHWnZ2dnUVZ8qVi4p2d(a)giganews.com... > On 29/04/2010 11:09, Brimstone wrote: >> You tell me which would be quicker and occupy less police, CPS and court >> time. >> > The driver to wait for the gap before the zigzags, or to do as others have > said - take control by slowing, hazard lights and reversing in when > traffic behind has stopped. Which is what an experienced driver would do. Do we know how long the individual in this incident has held a licence? Even trying to create space for oneself as you've suggested Ray can cause problems when the idiot behind fails to take notice and blocks one's reverse movement. I've had it happen to me. >> Creating a space so that he could reverse into his driveway or nicking >> him and taking him to court. >> > Nicking him, Which serves what useful purpose? > then suggesting he reads the HC. Show where the HC deals with such a situation, apart from telling us that we must not stop on zig-zag lines. >> You say he chose to be a fuckwit. What should he have done? >> > Drive safely. > Another "suggestion" without any useful advice. Was he stopped in the zig-zags before or after the pedestrian crossing? If after, what is unsafe about that?
From: MrBitsy on 2 May 2010 13:23
On 28/04/2010 15:54, JNugent wrote: >>>> Given that there may be a good reason for him *reversing* into the >>>> driveway (eg so he doesn't have to reverse out into busy traffic) I >>>> wonder what he should have done differently? Not tried to park in >>>> his driveway at a time when there was heavy traffic which prevented >>>> him completing the manoeuvre without having to wait? >>> >>> Where should he have parked the car, then? >>> >>> I agree that he could have driven in forwards. >> >> Waited before the zigzags and then move forward. By waiting on the >> zigzags, he was creating a danger to other road users. > > You're in pole position for Answering A Different Question From The > One Asked. Eh? -- MrBitsy |