Mark Scaife calls for 140km/h limit on VIC freeways
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From: John_H on 14 Jun 2010 21:26 D Walford wrote: >On 15/06/2010 2:03 AM, Bernd Felsche wrote: >> >> It's not hard to drive in Germany... if you have the right attitude. >> Attitude is 80% of the difference. > >Very good point, it may be possible to teach new drivers the right >attitude but very difficult to change older ones. I've said it all before, but here we go again.... Road rage, in its various forms, is the most neglected road safety issue in this country. The most common everyday examples I see are.... tailgating (when it's done to demonstrate annoyance or to intimidate, as it frequently is) and deliberately blocking others from merging, overtaking or lane changing. Far worse examples aren't unusual and it's all down to attitude. Only the very worst are ever prosecuted... eg irate motorist runs down old lady in dispute over parking spot and gets 40 hours community service! It's been going on for so long it's now a part of the national psyche. -- John H
From: Feral on 14 Jun 2010 22:20 Bernd Felsche wrote: > Take away their licence. Put them in gaol if they continue to drive. This could be interesting in a couple of ways Bernie. I posted this same scenario yonks ago in Spooky's thread. Oh dear. -- Take Care. ~~ Feral Al ( @..@) (\- :-P -/) ((.>__oo__<.)) ^^^ % ^^^
From: Fraser Johnston on 15 Jun 2010 01:03 "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4c158d2c$0$14158$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > That problem is easy to solve, the speed limit reverts to 100kph when its > raining, to prevent arguments over whether or not its wet enough to drop the > limit they could install variable speed limit signs which we already have on > many roads in Vic. > IMO the issue of poor lane discipline needs to be addressed before the limits > could be safely increased. > The limits could be raised in steps over a couple of years to get people used > to the idea, immediately raise to 110kph on the 3 roads mentioned (Hume is > mostly 110 anyway) then 12mths later increase by another 10kph. That opens a whole can of worms. Too hard to police. Imagine you pass a sign at 140km/h then a drop of rain hits the rain sensor and it changes to 100 after you have passed it. Better way is to make it 140km/h and if someone is driving not to the conditions (ie. it is pissing it down) you hit them with a dangerous driving charge instead of speeding. Fraser
From: Feral on 15 Jun 2010 02:18 Fraser Johnston wrote: > That opens a whole can of worms. Too hard to police. Imagine you pass a sign > at 140km/h then a drop of rain hits the rain sensor and it changes to 100 after > you have passed it. Uh huh! No comment needed? > Better way is to make it 140km/h and if someone is driving not to the > conditions (ie. it is pissing it down) you hit them with a dangerous driving > charge instead of speeding. > > Fraser -- Take Care. ~~ Feral Al ( @..@) (\- :-P -/) ((.>__oo__<.)) ^^^ % ^^^
From: D Walford on 15 Jun 2010 02:27
On 15/06/2010 11:26 AM, John_H wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> On 15/06/2010 2:03 AM, Bernd Felsche wrote: >>> >>> It's not hard to drive in Germany... if you have the right attitude. >>> Attitude is 80% of the difference. >> >> Very good point, it may be possible to teach new drivers the right >> attitude but very difficult to change older ones. > > I've said it all before, but here we go again.... > > Road rage, in its various forms, is the most neglected road safety > issue in this country. The most common everyday examples I see > are.... tailgating (when it's done to demonstrate annoyance or to > intimidate, as it frequently is) and deliberately blocking others from > merging, overtaking or lane changing. > > Far worse examples aren't unusual and it's all down to attitude. Only > the very worst are ever prosecuted... eg irate motorist runs down old > lady in dispute over parking spot and gets 40 hours community service! > > It's been going on for so long it's now a part of the national psyche. > Too true, I've probably been guilty of some of it myself when I was a lot younger. Only hope is to change the attitudes of the very young and work up from there. Daryl |