From: John David Galt on
Scott in SoCal wrote:
> The current U.S. standard of living is unsustainable. It is based on
> the wobbly foundation of cheap gasoline, "free" roads, and "free"
> parking.

What's unsustainable is the huge burden of socialism sucking the life
out of our economy, especially the green movement which is about trying
to steal the standard of living we've earned, paid for, and own forever.

Greens are the enemies of mankind. Let's dump them all naked in the
Amazon and let them find out for themselves how "sustainable" their
lives are when lived in the way nature intended.
From: Brent on
On 2009-10-20, Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> John David Galt wrote:
>> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>> The current U.S. standard of living is unsustainable. It is based on
>>> the wobbly foundation of cheap gasoline, "free" roads, and "free"
>>> parking.
>>
>> What's unsustainable is the huge burden of socialism sucking the life
>> out of our economy, especially the green movement which is about trying
>> to steal the standard of living we've earned, paid for, and own forever.
>
> Amen. Notheing more to say. Amen.
>
>> Greens are the enemies of mankind. Let's dump them all naked in the
>> Amazon and let them find out for themselves how "sustainable" their
>> lives are when lived in the way nature intended.
>
> This may be too broad a brush. I was (and still am) convinced that we
> (as a group) were and are doing stupid stuff. We have not fully
> accounted for costs when we decide to do something. That is why we have
> smog, water pollution, (and believe it or not, some of the flooding,
> fires and other "natural" disasters).

The problem in that regard is and always has been a lack of respect of
the property rights of people who don't have or have less political
power. Environmental laws to this day work for the benefit of those with
political power. While big oil gets to dump it's waste in people's water
supply no new upstart from some guy would be allowed to such a thing.



From: Otto Yamamoto on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:19:09 -0800, John David Galt wrote:

> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>> The current U.S. standard of living is unsustainable. It is based on
>> the wobbly foundation of cheap gasoline, "free" roads, and "free"
>> parking.
>
> What's unsustainable is the huge burden of socialism....

Have you read Marx? Do you know what 'socialism' is? Or are you just
parroting someone else's talking points? My money's on the latter. Find
me one *real* declared 'socialist' in American politics. Not the
Bourgeoisie that Fox News claims are Bolsheviks, but a real live
socialist. Good luck with that.




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From: Otto Yamamoto on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:23 -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:

> In addition, I suspect (but don't actually have current information)
> that government procurement "standards" pretty much require (or required
> recently) "Intel" (AKA "Microsoft, "IBM PC") based computers.

Linux and Mac OS run on Intel based PCS. In fact, I switched up from AMD
to Intel because I get a lot less misery running Intel. The Army has used
Mac servers, the Naval Observatory is a Linux shop, last I heard.



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From: Brent on
On 2009-10-21, Otto Yamamoto <roscoe(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:19:09 -0800, John David Galt wrote:
>
>> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>> The current U.S. standard of living is unsustainable. It is based on
>>> the wobbly foundation of cheap gasoline, "free" roads, and "free"
>>> parking.
>>
>> What's unsustainable is the huge burden of socialism....
>
> Have you read Marx? Do you know what 'socialism' is? Or are you just
> parroting someone else's talking points? My money's on the latter. Find
> me one *real* declared 'socialist' in American politics. Not the
> Bourgeoisie that Fox News claims are Bolsheviks, but a real live
> socialist. Good luck with that.

declared? LOL. you just demonstrated a lack of understanding how politics
works in the USA. Hint: It's about illusion.