From: Larry Sheldon on
Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:

> Windows is installed on 90% of all computers; it owns the market.

"monopoly" is not defined as a product that everybody (rightly or
wrongly) thinks is the perfect solution.

> Windows is the standard by which others are judged; is it "better"
> than Windows?

Since there are "others", Windows is not a monopoly product.
From: Brent on
On 2009-10-22, chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Brent wrote:
>
>>Sounds like you've just agreed that government interference is required.
>
> Why agree to something that is false? You sound like the government
> is some magical force, that can do things more effectively than the
> tricky, scheming, businessman cannot do (under the right
> circumstances, of course).

Government isn't a magical force, it's got a monopoly on legal violence.
With that monopoly it can grant monopolies to others. The large 'evil'
businessmen that retain their freedom and their wealth must ally
themselves with the state in some form. Good businessmen of equal
business size have to at least purchase protection eventually.

> It could be argued that "passing laws" can be *less* effective than
> some of the methods of the businessman.

Getting laws passed is how you crush your competition in the USA.


From: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" on
"Larry Sheldon" <lfsheldon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7kbf8lF395b6pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Otto Yamamoto wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:52:07 -0400, Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What the liberals did, in their desperation and inability to win an
>>> election, was to defile the prestige of the Presidency for their own
>>> political gain, right down to their aid and comfort to our enemies.
>>>
>>> The rules are set now, and the Right didn't start them.
>>
>> Let's see. Reagan 8 years, Bush 41 4 years, Bush 43 8 years; and 12 years
>> of republican congressional majorities. Plus a sledge-hammer presence in
>> the media during all that time. Name a 'liberal' commentator equivalent
>> to Rush, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, et. al. And they still couldn't subdue
>> the 'liberals' or 'set the rules' to their favour. Pretty pathetic, I'd
>> say.
>
> Well, let's see. Should I start the list with Edward R. Morrow, or Walter
> Cronkite. I need to be careful because the list is so long that quota is
> a concern.

No President, or Presidency in living history has been as ill-treated as
Bush.

Not by any comparison.

To the detriment of the nation and it's citizens.

And it won't be corrected in our lifetimes.




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From: Brent on
On 2009-10-22, Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick <Popeye(a)finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "Larry Sheldon" <lfsheldon(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7kbf8lF395b6pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Otto Yamamoto wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:52:07 -0400, Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What the liberals did, in their desperation and inability to win an
>>>> election, was to defile the prestige of the Presidency for their own
>>>> political gain, right down to their aid and comfort to our enemies.
>>>>
>>>> The rules are set now, and the Right didn't start them.
>>>
>>> Let's see. Reagan 8 years, Bush 41 4 years, Bush 43 8 years; and 12 years
>>> of republican congressional majorities. Plus a sledge-hammer presence in
>>> the media during all that time. Name a 'liberal' commentator equivalent
>>> to Rush, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, et. al. And they still couldn't subdue
>>> the 'liberals' or 'set the rules' to their favour. Pretty pathetic, I'd
>>> say.
>>
>> Well, let's see. Should I start the list with Edward R. Morrow, or Walter
>> Cronkite. I need to be careful because the list is so long that quota is
>> a concern.
>
> No President, or Presidency in living history has been as ill-treated as
> Bush.
>
> Not by any comparison.
>
> To the detriment of the nation and it's citizens.
>
> And it won't be corrected in our lifetimes.

No President, or Presidency in history has spent as much and centralized
and power in the executive as Bush

Not by any comparison.

To the detriment of the nation and it's citizens.

And it will be exceeded in the next 7.2 years.


From: chrisv on
Brent wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>> Brent wrote:
>>
>>>Sounds like you've just agreed that government interference is required.
>>
>> Why agree to something that is false? You sound like the government
>> is some magical force, that can do things more effectively than the
>> tricky, scheming, businessman cannot do (under the right
>> circumstances, of course).
>
>Government isn't a magical force, it's got a monopoly on legal violence.
>With that monopoly it can grant monopolies to others.

"Government can grant monopolies" does not equal "monopolies require
government grant"

>The large 'evil'
>businessmen that retain their freedom and their wealth must ally
>themselves with the state in some form. Good businessmen of equal
>business size have to at least purchase protection eventually.

Not necessarily.

>> It could be argued that "passing laws" can be *less* effective than
>> some of the methods of the businessman.
>
>Getting laws passed is how you crush your competition in the USA.

No, it is only one of many ways to do that.