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From: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" on 25 Oct 2009 05:56 "Hans-Joachim Zierke" <Usenetspam014(a)Zierke.com> wrote in message news:slrnhe7r4l.bps.Usenetspam014(a)Odysseus.Zierke.com... > > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick schrieb: >> First, the world is still in a love affair with Obama, no matter what >> he >> does (and more specifically, what he doesn't do). > > The view of the United States of America has simply rebounded to normal. Which has never been positive, and has always been the point of blame for the world's ills. >> Secondly, when Great Britain shanks us on the Lockerbie Bomber, their >> 17 >> point increase rings pretty false. > > Sounds as if there haven't been any British victims at Lockerbie. None, apparently, that they cared about more than the terrorist. >> Germany's approval rate has doubled. >> >> Could you give me -one- concrete reason why? >that the USA won't restart a Cold War with Russia > just out of dumbness instead of hard reasons, that the USA will no > longer block any attempt to regulate the worldwide financial markets, > and on and on ... in short, the relief in Germany and other European > states does not have that much to do with Obama as a person - over here, > he is mostly the symbol figure for a different USA being back as a > partner to solve the world's problems, instead of creating them. > > > > Hans-Joachim > > > > -- > It sometimes seems to me that people have a need for the externalization > of evil. They have the need to think that there is, somewhere, an enemy > boundlessly evil, because this makes them feel boundlessly good. > George Kennan -- -- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762
From: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" on 25 Oct 2009 06:01 "Hans-Joachim Zierke" <Usenetspam014(a)Zierke.com> wrote in message news:slrnhe7r4l.bps.Usenetspam014(a)Odysseus.Zierke.com... > > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick schrieb: Sorry, I was laughing so hard that I must've hit "send". >> Germany's approval rate has doubled. >> >> Could you give me -one- concrete reason why? > > It is expected, Right. Not -one- concrete reason. >that the USA won't restart a Cold War with Russia That one is particularly funny, while you talk about skewed world views. See: Georgia. > Hans-Joachim > > > > -- > It sometimes seems to me that people have a need for the externalization > of evil. They have the need to think that there is, somewhere, an enemy > boundlessly evil, because this makes them feel boundlessly good. > George Kennan -- -- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762
From: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" on 25 Oct 2009 10:58 "Hans-Joachim Zierke" <Usenetspam014(a)Zierke.com> wrote in message news:slrnhe8a0r.bps.Usenetspam014(a)Odysseus.Zierke.com... > > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick schrieb: > >>> The view of the United States of America has simply rebounded to normal. >> >> Which has never been positive, > > Normal values here in Germany would be about 70% holding favourable > views about the United States. Bringing that down to 30% was quite an > achievement. Not really: "It sometimes seems to me that people have a need for the externalization of evil. They have the need to think that there is, somewhere, an enemy boundlessly evil, because this makes them feel boundlessly good." >> and has always been the point of blame for >> the world's ills. > > You're crybaby. It's amazing that you state this, then below, provide a cite written by the EU that implies the U.S. was responsible for Russia's ruthless incursion into Georgia. That's a real knee-slapper. Furthermore, your implication that I'm hysterical, or your statement that I'm a crybaby, couldn't be further off the mark. Not only could I care less what other countries think of us, but I'm a total isolationist. We should quit the U.N. and kick them out, and leave NATO as well, since the New Russians are your friends. We have absolutely no business in either organization. We should recall our military garrisons worldwide, and station them on our southern border. Lastly, during your next -inevitable- excursion into France (assuming you're German), I intend to gleefully buy German war bonds. >>> Sounds as if there haven't been any British victims at Lockerbie. >> >> None, apparently, that they cared about more than the terrorist. > > Gaining some knowledge before judgement is never a bad idea. What knowledge of this incident do you assume I lack? They brokered a Bush-like oil deal, and tried to cover it up. But since it wasn't Bush, everything is hunky dory for you. Another -flawless- example of my point. >>>that the USA won't restart a Cold War with Russia >> >> That one is particularly funny, while you talk about skewed world >> views. >> >> See: Georgia. > > There is a quite detailed EU report about who started that war. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/30_09_09_iiffmgc_report.pdf Too funny. See above, and try this one instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war > > > Hans-Joachim > > > > > -- > It sometimes seems to me that people have a need for the externalization > of evil. They have the need to think that there is, somewhere, an enemy > boundlessly evil, because this makes them feel boundlessly good. > George Kennan -- -- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762
From: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" on 25 Oct 2009 15:40 "Hans-Joachim Zierke" <Usenetspam014(a)Zierke.com> wrote in message news:slrnhe8vhr.ovt.Usenetspam014(a)Odysseus.Zierke.com... > > Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick schrieb: > > >> Not only could I care less what other countries think of us, > >> We should quit the U.N. and kick them out, > > > > You have explained nicely, why it means relief to the world around you, > that people like you are less represented by the current government of > the United States. Ah. Baseless pedestal pontification sure beats arguing the individual facts, doesn't it? The current government represents me about as much as the last one did. Maybe we can revisit your illusions in a year and see how you're doing. -- -- Popeye "If one does as God does enough times, one will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector. www.finalprotectivefire.com http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762
From: Otto Yamamoto on 25 Oct 2009 15:56
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:40:18 -0400, Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick wrote: > The current government represents me about as much as the last one > did. > > Maybe we can revisit your illusions in a year and see how you're > doing. Better do a quick re-think Hans. 'Popeye' sounds more like an actual conservative; perhaps even a right-libertarian-rather the opposite of the American Fascist that the media portray as conservative. -- 'Smoking is Healthier than Fascism' |