From: Sylvia Else on
On 2/04/2010 8:14 PM, Doug Jewell wrote:
> John Tserkezis wrote:
>> Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> How absurd that the church leaders should use Easter as an excuse to
>>> attack a non-belief system.
>>>
>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/02/2863269.htm
>>>
>>> Seems the church is again stirring their sheep to revolt against a
>>> perceived threat which is just a protection mechanism against their
>>> own insecurities.
>>>
>>> Maybe they should spend more time investigating priests and their
>>> actions and helping the victims so fewer people become disenchanted
>>> with religion and the church...
>>
>> Yes, they keep forgetting how many little boys their church members
>> have fucked lately.
> How many little boys have been fucked by people who aren't church
> members? How many are fucked by school-teachers? random strangers on the
> street? their own relatives?
>
> The vast majority of church goers and the vast majority of priests are
> NOT pedophiles, just as the vast majority of the non-church-going
> population aren't either. But of course the media has a field day when
> it's a catholic priest, when it's anyone else you barely hear about it.
>

I wonder what *percentage* of priests are paedophiles, compared with the
general population.

Sylvia.
From: John Tserkezis on
Doug Jewell wrote:

>> Yes, they keep forgetting how many little boys their church members
>> have fucked lately.

> How many little boys have been fucked by people who aren't church
> members? How many are fucked by school-teachers? random strangers on the
> street? their own relatives?

> The vast majority of church goers and the vast majority of priests are
> NOT pedophiles, just as the vast majority of the non-church-going
> population aren't either. But of course the media has a field day when
> it's a catholic priest, when it's anyone else you barely hear about it.

A Joe Average pedo is put onto the streets in random locations, without
telling the surrounding community that they're there.

A touchy-feely priest is kept quiet, never prosecuted, and kept within
the church system in buildings where you might send your children to be
taught.

Yeah, you're right, it makes no difference.
From: Doug Jewell on
John Tserkezis wrote:
> Doug Jewell wrote:
>
>>> Yes, they keep forgetting how many little boys their church members
>>> have fucked lately.
>
>> How many little boys have been fucked by people who aren't church
>> members? How many are fucked by school-teachers? random strangers on the
>> street? their own relatives?
>
>> The vast majority of church goers and the vast majority of priests are
>> NOT pedophiles, just as the vast majority of the non-church-going
>> population aren't either. But of course the media has a field day when
>> it's a catholic priest, when it's anyone else you barely hear about it.
>
> A Joe Average pedo is put onto the streets in random locations, without
> telling the surrounding community that they're there.
>
> A touchy-feely priest is kept quiet, never prosecuted, and kept within
> the church system in buildings where you might send your children to be
> taught.
While researching to answer Sylvia, I found that in the USA,
of 4392 priests against whom allegations had been made, 1021
cases were referred to police, while about 3000 had already
died by the time the allegation was made. So I'm afraid the
facts don't agree with your statement "never prosecuted".

Furthermore, incidence of pedophilia is no higher within the
priesthood than the community at large, and also the
majority of pedophilia offences are committed by a relative
or friend of the victim.

Despite your apparent hatred for religion, the facts are
that your kids are probably less likely to be molested at
Sunday School than if you have a few mates around for a barbie.

>
> Yeah, you're right, it makes no difference.


--
What is the difference between a duck?
From: Doug Jewell on
Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 2/04/2010 8:14 PM, Doug Jewell wrote:
>> John Tserkezis wrote:
>>> Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> How absurd that the church leaders should use Easter as an excuse to
>>>> attack a non-belief system.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/02/2863269.htm
>>>>
>>>> Seems the church is again stirring their sheep to revolt against a
>>>> perceived threat which is just a protection mechanism against their
>>>> own insecurities.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe they should spend more time investigating priests and their
>>>> actions and helping the victims so fewer people become disenchanted
>>>> with religion and the church...
>>>
>>> Yes, they keep forgetting how many little boys their church members
>>> have fucked lately.
>> How many little boys have been fucked by people who aren't church
>> members? How many are fucked by school-teachers? random strangers on the
>> street? their own relatives?
>>
>> The vast majority of church goers and the vast majority of priests are
>> NOT pedophiles, just as the vast majority of the non-church-going
>> population aren't either. But of course the media has a field day when
>> it's a catholic priest, when it's anyone else you barely hear about it.
>>
>
> I wonder what *percentage* of priests are paedophiles, compared with the
> general population.
>
> Sylvia.
Found some research that does seem to do direct comparison:

"A Perspective on Clergy Sexual Abuse by Dr. Thomas Plante
of Stanford University and Santa Clara University states
that "available research suggests that approximately 2 to 5%
of priests have had a sexual experience with a minor" which
"is lower than the general adult male population that is
best estimated to be closer to 8%".

--
What is the difference between a duck?
From: Barry OGrady on
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:14:28 +1000, Doug Jewell
<ask(a)and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote:

>John Tserkezis wrote:
>> Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> How absurd that the church leaders should use Easter as an excuse to attack
>>> a non-belief system.
>>>
>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/02/2863269.htm
>>>
>>> Seems the church is again stirring their sheep to revolt against a perceived
>>> threat which is just a protection mechanism against their own insecurities.
>>>
>>> Maybe they should spend more time investigating priests and their actions
>>> and helping the victims so fewer people become disenchanted with religion
>>> and the church...
>>
>> Yes, they keep forgetting how many little boys their church members
>> have fucked lately.
>How many little boys have been fucked by people who aren't
>church members? How many are fucked by school-teachers?
>random strangers on the street? their own relatives?
>
>The vast majority of church goers and the vast majority of
>priests are NOT pedophiles, just as the vast majority of the
>non-church-going population aren't either. But of course
>the media has a field day when it's a catholic priest, when
>it's anyone else you barely hear about it.

When people are perverse enough to follow a sick belief system like
Christianity they are more likely to do other perverse things.

Christianity is a filthy disease.