Prev: Convex external drivers side mirror
Next: no mitsubishi recalls to report
From: John McKenzie on 24 Apr 2010 00:56
Athol wrote:
>
> George W Frost <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Athol, the Storms overpayments were averahing $15,000 a week
> > Now, $15,000 a week is not that much when it is divided over the entire
> > team, but, it has been taken over 5 years which makes the total overpayment
> > look much larger than it really is.
>
> $15,000 per week, divided (presumably unevenly) across their first
> grade players. Let's assume that that's say 30 players, averaging $500
> per week *secret bonus* on top of what they are officially paid. Every
> week? If they're paid for the full year and not just the playing
> season, that'd be $26,000 per annum average per player of under the
> table bonus. If that's the difference between earning say $80,000 and
> $106,000 per annum, it's a big difference in wage!
>
> Even over one year, that's a massive distortion of the distribution of
> player talent across the teams.

I can't speak for other states, but this sort of stuff is the norm in
Melbourne. In Aussie rules footy at lest, and has been for years. I knew
blokes I grew up with getting massive 'handballs' when playing EDFL,
which is more or less just local teams (or supposed to be) and they were
getting weekly sums in brown paper bags (so to speak) the equivalent of
more than a week's wage at any reasonable job.

Stands to reason the higher up the pyramid one goes, the higher the
handouts. Heck the same thing occured and has for decades with olympic
athletes.

I'm not saying it's kosher (and for the record I don't really give a
darn about melbourne storm) but I am surprised that anyone is surprised
by such things.


--
John McKenzie

tosspam(a)aol.com abuse(a)yahoo.com abuse(a)hotmail.com abuse(a)earthlink.com
abuse(a)aol.com vice.president(a)whitehouse.gov president(a)whitehouse.gov
sweep.day(a)accc.gov.au uce(a)ftc.gov admin(a)loopback abuse(a)iprimus.com.au
$LOGIN(a)localhost I knew Sanchez before they were dirty root(a)mailloop.com
$USER@$HOST $LOGNAME(a)localhost -h1024(a)localhost abuse(a)msn.com
abuse(a)federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo(a)psinet.com abuse(a)asio.gov.au
$USER(a)localhost abuse(a)sprint.com abuse(a)fbi.gov abuse(a)cia.gov
From: Kev on 25 Apr 2010 00:35
Athol wrote:
> John McKenzie <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying it's kosher (and for the record I don't really give a
>> darn about melbourne storm) but I am surprised that anyone is surprised
>> by such things.
>
> I'm not surprised by it, I'm amused by it. In particular, I'm amused
> that there are people out there who are upset that the sport's ruling
> body has decided to make an example of cheats when they are caught.
>
> I also quite liked the excuse from the guy who apparently set the
> whole thing up for the storm. "Everybody else was doing it." :-)
>
> If they bust every team for similar salary cap breaches, will they
> cancel the entire season? We can but hope. :-)
>


Broncos got away with it for years
all the
"Corporate Sponsors", "Businesses" and TV commercials

all helped them to retain a top team during the 90s


Kev
From: John McKenzie on 25 Apr 2010 02:36
Athol wrote:
>
> John McKenzie <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not saying it's kosher (and for the record I don't really give a
> > darn about melbourne storm) but I am surprised that anyone is surprised
> > by such things.
>
> I'm not surprised by it, I'm amused by it. In particular, I'm amused
> that there are people out there who are upset that the sport's ruling
> body has decided to make an example of cheats when they are caught.

It's kinda like the drug issue. Truth be told, it'd be impossible to get
to an internationally competitive level in any olympic sport (that
actually requires athleticism, I don't necessarily count skeet shooting)
- and there's no secret at all amongst the players about it. Yet they
have to go through the motions, and condemn whomever gets caught, as if
the group of those caught = the group of those using drugs.

In reality they all are, it's inevitible. The best way one could
describe it is thusly - if someone really was able to match the drug
users and remain natural, what the hell would stop them using and being
invincible....

Another interesting point - take away the drugs, and the same athletes
will still be at the top, just the relative performances would be lower.
Ultimately it's down to genetics (since one could surmise that short of
a few impoverished muckholes, training and nutrition is fairly much the
same around the world).

But come out and say this sort of thing, and you're kicked of out the
AIS as a coach, no matter how true it is.

One of the 'cool' things about the formerly good (and now just troll
central) misc.fitness.weights was that the chemist behind the balco
scandal (the untestable steroid they'd developed) and a few other
similar biochem genii (pl of genius???) were frequent, and somewhat
frank posters.

The old saying - you can fool the fans but you can't fool the players.


> I also quite liked the excuse from the guy who apparently set the
> whole thing up for the storm. "Everybody else was doing it." :-)

no doubt it's true, and I say that without any hint of negativity to
those doing it. It's big money, they'd have a screw loose to choose to
be wooden spooners but 'honest' which is the only other song playing.
>
> If they bust every team for similar salary cap breaches, will they
> cancel the entire season? We can but hope. :-)

Now _that_ would amuse me.

--
John McKenzie

tosspam(a)aol.com abuse(a)yahoo.com abuse(a)hotmail.com abuse(a)earthlink.com
abuse(a)aol.com vice.president(a)whitehouse.gov president(a)whitehouse.gov
sweep.day(a)accc.gov.au uce(a)ftc.gov admin(a)loopback abuse(a)iprimus.com.au
$LOGIN(a)localhost I knew Sanchez before they were dirty root(a)mailloop.com
$USER@$HOST $LOGNAME(a)localhost -h1024(a)localhost abuse(a)msn.com
abuse(a)federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo(a)psinet.com abuse(a)asio.gov.au
$USER(a)localhost abuse(a)sprint.com abuse(a)fbi.gov abuse(a)cia.gov
From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on 25 Apr 2010 08:54
Athol wrote:
> John McKenzie <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying it's kosher (and for the record I don't really give a
>> darn about melbourne storm) but I am surprised that anyone is surprised
>> by such things.
>
> I'm not surprised by it, I'm amused by it. In particular, I'm amused
> that there are people out there who are upset that the sport's ruling
> body has decided to make an example of cheats when they are caught.
>
> I also quite liked the excuse from the guy who apparently set the
> whole thing up for the storm. "Everybody else was doing it." :-)
>
> If they bust every team for similar salary cap breaches, will they
> cancel the entire season? We can but hope. :-)
>
If the player were pad their true worth the cap wouldn't matter

silly bloody game and the cap is ridiculous

it aint union so I don't care
First  |  Prev  | 
Pages: 1 2
Prev: Convex external drivers side mirror
Next: no mitsubishi recalls to report