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From: Mortimer on
"Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mortimer wrote:
>> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hlelkr$tqe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Mr Benn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why are so many drivers getting this wrong? The broken line separating
>>>> the slip road from lane 1 means "give way".
>>>
>>> It doesn't, it is not a give-way line, and the HC reads:
>>>
>>> 259
>>> Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally
>>> approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining
>>> motorway. You should
>>>
>>> give priority to traffic already on the motorway
>>
>> Er, if you have to give priority to traffic already on the motorway, you
>> are giving way to it, so in all except a legal HC definition it is a give
>> way line because if you are on a slip road that is what you do to traffic
>> already on the motorway.
>
> What is your understanding of 'give priority to traffic already on the
> motorway' ?

Give way to it: ultimately you let it go ahead of you and wait (stopping if
necessary) until there is a convenient gap so you can join; don't expect
drivers already on the motorway to give way to you.

However given the difficulty of accelerating from rest in the remaining
length of slip road before you can safely join the motorway, you try your
damndest *not* to stop but just adjust your speed and position to match the
trafic that you are joining and make sure you are alongside a gap.

From: Nick Finnigan on
Mortimer wrote:
>>
>> What is your understanding of 'give priority to traffic already on
>> the motorway' ?
>
> Give way to it:

Obviously TPTB think the two phrases have different meanings.

> ultimately you let it go ahead of you and wait (stopping
> if necessary)

This is the natural meaning of giving priority.

until there is a convenient gap so you can join; don't
> expect drivers already on the motorway to give way to you.

However, this is unclear. e.g. do you give priority to traffic in lane 2
of the motorway which wants to pull in to the convenient gap in lane 1?
From: Harry Bloomfield on
damduck-egg(a)yahoo.co.uk explained :
> On the other hand it shows how far we have come over the past 45
> years. B series powered MGB GT's have around the same 0 to 60. I
> suppose the Micra driver equivalent back then would be something like
> an Austin 1100 with a 0 to 60 at around 21 seconds and surprisingly
> the base Cortina as used by many lowly reps was fractionally slower
> when first introduced.

I would really love to try one of my early driving career cars out on
the modern roads, at modern traffic speeds. Some of them seemed pretty
fast at the time.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


From: Harry Bloomfield on
Nkosi (ama-ecosse) was thinking very hard :
> You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is
> clear.

That is why they hog L2 - as the road ahead is always occupied by
another vehicle, it never becomes 'clear'.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk


From: Adrian on
Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

> I would really love to try one of my early driving career cars out on
> the modern roads, at modern traffic speeds.

What cars?
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