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From: Chris Bartram on 17 Feb 2010 03:36 On 16/02/2010 21:59, Harry Bloomfield wrote: > Chris Bartram expressed precisely : >> I've had to use the hard shoulder once thanks to a Metro stopping with >> no warning (and a clear gap to pull into) at the end of M6N J9 >> sliproad, and I'd say that while that's not a course of action you'd >> want to use, it's a damned sight better than stopping joining anything >> but a very quiet motorway. > > I cannot think of my ever having had need to stop, unless L1 has > actually come to a stop. Where that has happened - I just match speeds > with the tail of the vehicle ahead in L1 from a good distance from the > end of the slip and the driver along side/slightly behind always lets me > in. When its congested, I never go tearing along the slip, trying to get > ahead - I can do that by moving over to the faster moving lanes once on > the motorway. > Indeed.
From: Mr Benn on 17 Feb 2010 04:48 "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message news:hlelkr$tqe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Mr Benn wrote: >> >> Why are so many drivers getting this wrong? The broken line separating >> the slip road from lane 1 means "give way". > > It doesn't, it is not a give-way line, and the HC reads: > > 259 > Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally > approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining > motorway. You should > > give priority to traffic already on the motorway So what do you think "give way" means? Give way to traffic on the other side of the line. i.e. traffic on the other side of the line has priority.
From: Mr Benn on 17 Feb 2010 04:50 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:zlBen.40823$Ym4.24552(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > Mr Benn wrote: >> Note: It's not always possible for traffic already in lane 1 to move >> over to lane 2 because of traffic already in lane 2 although as a >> courtesy they should do this when safe to aid traffic joining the >> motorway. > > Many drivers in slip roads seem to believe traffic should give way to > them. I think this is the problem. It's down to poor driver education.
From: Mortimer on 17 Feb 2010 09:29 "Nkosi (ama-ecosse)" <minankosi(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:0d69a23c-de7c-468e-a958-0954ef2af67c(a)d27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On 17 Feb, 09:50, "Mr Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > messagenews:zlBen.40823$Ym4.24552(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > > Richards (ask Jeremy Clarkson) who refuse to let any one merge into "their > space in front (normally less than 2 second gap)" from a a slip road into > lane 1 even if they are doing the same speed as the rest of the motorway > traffic. I'm not a Richard (the Third) but I don't want anyone to merge into "my" two-second gap because it reduces the safety margin ahead of me. However in this situation, rather than refusing to let someone in, I ease off my speed slightly for a moment to create a bigger gap so that there will still be two seconds ahead of me after the car has merged in.
From: NM on 17 Feb 2010 15:38
On 17 Feb, 14:29, "Mortimer" <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > "Nkosi (ama-ecosse)" <minank...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:0d69a23c-de7c-468e-a958-0954ef2af67c(a)d27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On 17 Feb, 09:50, "Mr Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in > > messagenews:zlBen.40823$Ym4.24552(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > > > Richards (ask Jeremy Clarkson) who refuse to let any one merge into "their > > space in front (normally less than 2 second gap)" from a a slip road into > > lane 1 even if they are doing the same speed as the rest of the motorway > > traffic. > > I'm not a Richard (the Third) but I don't want anyone to merge into "my" > two-second gap because it reduces the safety margin ahead of me. However in > this situation, rather than refusing to let someone in, I ease off my speed > slightly for a moment to create a bigger gap so that there will still be two > seconds ahead of me after the car has merged in. Correct behaviour, congratulations, sadly there are many who will take possible infringement into their 'space' as a personal insult to their manhood and will battle to the death to redress the balance. (also applies, sometimes more so to women). |