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From: Steve Firth on 1 Mar 2010 01:47 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Yes, over twice as much as the 600 you were claiming. > > Nope. > > Here it is again: > > "To get them both with 105PS, you're looking at �17,200 for the 1.2 > TSI > petrol and �18.410 for the 1.6 TDI... so nowhere near �2k. > > Go for the 90PS 1.6TDI, and you're looking at �17,800... so �600 more > than the petrol." Yes, over twice as much as the 600 you were claiming.
From: Chris Bartram on 1 Mar 2010 03:55 On 27/02/2010 00:54, Tim S Kemp wrote: > > Petrol motors don't have them, diesels don't > need them I'm pretty sure they're sneaking in on some petrols nowadays.
From: Albert T Cone on 1 Mar 2010 05:24 Tim S Kemp wrote: > > "AstraVanMann" <peter(a)swerveweb.com> wrote in message > news:P6KdncDBYNyChxXWnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "Tim S Kemp" <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at >>>> 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. >>> >>> And VAG have there share of DMF / Clutch problems. >> > > The DMF is supposed to smooth the vibrations at low RPM so clutch take > up is smooth, not juddery. Petrol motors don't have them, diesels don't > need them but in order to sell people expect them to be smooth. They are increasingly common on 4-pot petrol models these days - 2.0l mondeo/transit lump, plus I think pretty much all manual mercs since the W201. That said, I suspect that they'll last longer than in diesel applications, 'cos they have less low-rpm vibration to soak up and less torque to deal with. The chap who bought my passat replaced the DMF with a solid SMF. You could tell the difference if you pulled away with <1200rpm, but it wasn't hugely significant. I'd happily swap for the extra peace of mind - it's a diesel, after all, it's not *supposed* to be refined...
From: Albert T Cone on 1 Mar 2010 05:26 AstraVanMann wrote: > "Chris Bartram" <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: >>> It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of >>> those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item, >>> that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look >>> in the flesh. >> To be fair, DMFs are probably an 80k service item on any car: Ford, PSA >> and VAG all have them fail. I'd say that's not a bad life for a clutch >> either, depending on use, so just replace them.... > > I'd be shocked if a clutch needed replacing after 80k. A friend's girlfriend had the clutch in her Fiesta replaced for the /second/ time at 60k (!!)
From: JackH on 1 Mar 2010 06:24
On Mar 1, 6:47 am, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Yes, over twice as much as the 600 you were claiming. > > > Nope. > > > Here it is again: > > > "To get them both with 105PS, you're looking at 17,200 for the 1.2 > > TSI > > petrol and 18.410 for the 1.6 TDI... so nowhere near 2k. > > > Go for the 90PS 1.6TDI, and you're looking at 17,800... so 600 more > > than the petrol." > > Yes, over twice as much as the 600 you were claiming. :-) I take it the medication isn't working quite as well as it was... -- JackH |