From: Chris Bartram on
JackH wrote:

> In fact not one of the VAG TDIs I've had (and there have been a few
> now), have lagged like you've described, bar when the usual MAF issue
> rears its head.
>

I've now owned 4, and driven others regularly- between us we've had a
75bhp 3-pot 1.4, 90, 110 and 130 1.9s, and a 140PD 2.0. They've all
performed well for the technology they had, and all pulled from below 1500.

I've had the MAF issue in the 110, and it still pulled low down, it just
felt generally a bit flat throughout the range, but if anything the
effect was worst as you got towards the redline.

The 130 felt fastest, because of the huge torque lump. The 2.0 is
smoother in it's delivery, both in 140 & 170 versions. Not driven the
new CR yet.




>
> I'm not saying it because I tend to favour VAG stuff, but I've tried
> quite a few other modern diesels (PSA, Ford, Fiat, Vauxhall), and none
> of them have seemed to get the combination quite as right as the VAGs
> I've generally had when it comes to power delivery / economy /
> smoothness... hence why I generally tend to go back to them.
>
> --
> JackH
The Ford TDCI 130 does a good job. I'd have to say the VAG TDI isn't
really smooth though- either delivery accross the range or in the
vibration sense, but it's a winner in power/economy/driveability/durability.
From: Steve Firth on
Chris Bartram <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:

> > I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new.
> > Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself. It doesn't pull at
> > all until it gets to 2500rpm then as usual it's all over by 4000 rpm.
> > How narrow does a power band have to be for the dieselistas?
> >
> It must have been fucked.

Nah, it's just that diseasel drivers don't have a clue about driving
since all they are focussed on is MPG. They're even too dense to work
out that the extra cost of a diesel and the extra cost of diesel means
they'll not see a return on their capital this side of 100,000 miles.
From: Steve Firth on
JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 7:04 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > It's smooth, comfortable, quiet, costs �125 a year to tax, and as I've
> > > already said, pulls from sod all cleanly right through the rev range
> > > with none of the 'narrow power band' issues some diesels seem to be
> > > saddled with.
> >
> > I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new.
> > Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself.
>
> Experience tells me you're either exaggerating about how bad the one
> you had was, or you actually had one with issues.
>
> What model / BHP was it?

It was a red one. Other than that who GAF? It was a Golf, and an estate,
and a diesel. The three most boring things on the face of the planet.
From: Chris Bartram on
JackH wrote:

> Not so with the current one, which is a 90bhp.
>
> When the MAF played up on that, it felt like it kept cutting the turbo
> in and out fairly violently, and you'd end up going up a hill and just
> maintaining your speed rather than making any progress.
>
Well, my MAF wasn't utterly fucked- no fault codes or CEL, it just gave
a low output on VCDS logging. Car felt *much* faster with a new one though.
From: JackH on
On Feb 25, 9:15 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 7:04 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > It's smooth, comfortable, quiet, costs 125 a year to tax, and as I've
> > > > already said, pulls from sod all cleanly right through the rev range
> > > > with none of the 'narrow power band' issues some diesels seem to be
> > > > saddled with.
>
> > > I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new.
> > > Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself.
>
> > Experience tells me you're either exaggerating about how bad the one
> > you had was, or you actually had one with issues.
>
> > What model / BHP was it?
>
> It was a red one. Other than that who GAF? It was a Golf, and an estate,
> and a diesel. The three most boring things on the face of the planet.

Bored again, I see...

--
JackH