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From: Conor on 25 Feb 2010 18:43 On 2010-02-25 23:26:41 +0000, JackH said: > On Feb 25, 9:42�pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Feb 25, 9:15 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >>>> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> On Feb 25, 7:04 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >>>>>> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> It's smooth, comfortable, quiet, costs 125 a year to tax, and as I've >>>>>>> already said, pulls from sod all cleanly right through the revrange >>>>>>> with none of the 'narrow power band' issues some diesels seem to be >>>>>>> saddled with. >> >>>>>> I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new. >>>>>> Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself. >> >>>>> Experience tells me you're either exaggerating about how bad the one >>>>> you had was, or you actually had one with issues. >> >>>>> What model / BHP was it? >> >>>> It was a red one. Other than that who GAF? It was a Golf, and an estate, >>>> and a diesel. The three most boring things on the face of the planet. >> >>> Bored again, I see... >> >> Bored of VAG shite, yes. > > So do as you are, and don't try / buy / drive any of it then. > > Meanwhile those of us who are happy with it for the reasons stated > elsewhere will continue to do as we please in this respect. > >> Ford actually make more interesting cars. > > Maybe, maybe not - I'm not in the market for a new car for the > foreseeable - when I am, maybe I'll take a look at what they've got to > offer. > > A mate of mine funnily enough, has a 2006 Mondeo 2.2 TDCI ST thingy... > low mileage, bought from the local main dealers within the last 18 > months. The 2.2 ST isn't much quicker than a TDCi 130. > > The PAS has just started to play up on it... and he's now facing an > �1100 bill to get it put right > > The parts to sort it are on back order for the foreseeable, which kind > of indicates it might be something affecting quite a few of these > right now. I've not known anyone needing one nor are the MEG and MOC forums full of posts from people with failed pumps. If he's been quoted �1.1k, they're ripping him off. Certainly when I had the alternator fail, it was �10 cheaper for a brand new one from Ford than a recon from motor factors. > > It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of > those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item, > that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look > in the flesh. 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. -- Conor i'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.
From: JackH on 25 Feb 2010 18:58 On Feb 25, 11:43 pm, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > On 2010-02-25 23:26:41 +0000, JackH said: > > > > > On Feb 25, 9:42 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > >> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>> On Feb 25, 9:15 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > >>>> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>> On Feb 25, 7:04 pm, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > >>>>>> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>> It's smooth, comfortable, quiet, costs 125 a year to tax, and as I've > >>>>>>> already said, pulls from sod all cleanly right through the revrange > >>>>>>> with none of the 'narrow power band' issues some diesels seem to be > >>>>>>> saddled with. > > >>>>>> I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new.. > >>>>>> Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself. > > >>>>> Experience tells me you're either exaggerating about how bad the one > >>>>> you had was, or you actually had one with issues. > > >>>>> What model / BHP was it? > > >>>> It was a red one. Other than that who GAF? It was a Golf, and an estate, > >>>> and a diesel. The three most boring things on the face of the planet.. > > >>> Bored again, I see... > > >> Bored of VAG shite, yes. > > > So do as you are, and don't try / buy / drive any of it then. > > > Meanwhile those of us who are happy with it for the reasons stated > > elsewhere will continue to do as we please in this respect. > > >> Ford actually make more interesting cars. > > > Maybe, maybe not - I'm not in the market for a new car for the > > foreseeable - when I am, maybe I'll take a look at what they've got to > > offer. > > > A mate of mine funnily enough, has a 2006 Mondeo 2.2 TDCI ST thingy... > > low mileage, bought from the local main dealers within the last 18 > > months. > > The 2.2 ST isn't much quicker than a TDCi 130. It felt quick enough when he nailed it the other week. > > The PAS has just started to play up on it... and he's now facing an > > 1100 bill to get it put right > > > The parts to sort it are on back order for the foreseeable, which kind > > of indicates it might be something affecting quite a few of these > > right now. > > I've not known anyone needing one nor are the MEG and MOC forums full > of posts from people with failed pumps. It's not just having a pump... apparently it's having the whole lot replaced - the fluid has been contaminated by something failing in the system and this in turn has damaged other components. Like I say, apparently - I've not seen the failed components or diagnosis report for myself. > If he's been quoted 1.1k, they're ripping him off. Well that's yet another reason to avoid buying a Ford then really, isn't it; he's been quoted this by the main dealer that sold him the car in the first place! > Certainly when I had the alternator fail, it was 10 cheaper for a brand new one from Ford > than a recon from motor factors. I'm just going by what he's told me. Actually, I had to get an engine temperature sensor for the M3 the other day - common failure on BMWs of that era, apparently. Anyway... it was cheaper from the local BMW dealer than I could find it anywhere online, including eBay and the usuals, as in GSF and ECP, and it's come with a two year warranty as well. > > It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of > > those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item, > > that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look > > in the flesh. > > 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about 600 to replace. Works out at > 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. Yes... or alternatively buy something else without a proven track record of failures of this nature is perhaps the more sensible option. As I've pointed out many times before in the past, I didn't like the 55 plate 130 Mondeo I tried anyway. On paper it made real sense - was stupidly cheap for such a new car, but it wasn't a patch on the Passat it would have been replacing in any respect other than it was a hatch and not a saloon, unfortunately. I know you like them... I respect the fact you want to own and drive one... but for me *personally*, it wasn't a patch on the Passat, so don't look at the above as a 'how dare he diss my choice of car' kind of statement. ;-) -- JackH
From: Timo Geusch on 26 Feb 2010 02:26 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > Actually, I had to get an engine temperature sensor for the M3 the > other day - common failure on BMWs of that era, apparently. > > Anyway... it was cheaper from the local BMW dealer than I could find > it anywhere online, including eBay and the usuals, as in GSF and ECP, > and it's come with a two year warranty as well. The bay has become an atrouciously overpriced source for a lot of parts - dunno when that started but I think a lot of people are trying to capitalise on the "it's on ebay, it must be a bargain" sentiment, even if it isn't. -- '88 Porsche 911 Targa '95 Mercedes E280 estate '96 Elise S1 '90 Integrale 8V Kat
From: Tim S Kemp on 26 Feb 2010 02:58 "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:hm71vc$9p$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at 0.75p > per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. And VAG have there share of DMF / Clutch problems. Of course, the narrow power band, DMF and smoothness issues can be solved with a torque convertor and autobox, unless it's a Ford. -- And remember kids, RAID is safe and the UPS never fails, and Cisco routers never develop intermittent faults, and external hard drives never fail with only a month's use, and the DNS is reliable and resilient, and the mailserver is protected from all forms of attack, and the replacement UPS will be reliable as the first one was an unusual failure. No one will ever guess /that/ password, the aircon can't fail 285V is close enough to 230, and the QoS on the PWan won't obstruct the tagged traffic.
From: Tim S Kemp on 26 Feb 2010 03:00
"Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:GYKdnctAV5SrJBjWnZ2dnUVZ8kidnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > > "DervMan" <thedervman(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:DOqdneJWdsmj7hjWnZ2dnUVZ7vqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > >> It's a different generation and doesn't have as much of the electronic >> emissions crappery on it. >> > After speaking with Tim on MSN, it appears the previous person who hired > it filled it up with the wrong fuel then topped it off with diesel which > is why its running like a dog. No, it's why it died. The manual one also ran like a dog, and unless the delivery driver had filled it with Petrol I don't think misfueling could be an issue. -- And remember kids, RAID is safe and the UPS never fails, and Cisco routers never develop intermittent faults, and external hard drives never fail with only a month's use, and the DNS is reliable and resilient, and the mailserver is protected from all forms of attack, and the replacement UPS will be reliable as the first one was an unusual failure. No one will ever guess /that/ password, the aircon can't fail 285V is close enough to 230, and the QoS on the PWan won't obstruct the tagged traffic. |