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From: Albert T Cone on 26 Feb 2010 05:59 Tim S Kemp wrote: > > "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message > news:hm71vc$9p$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at >> 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. > > And VAG have their share of DMF / Clutch problems. *nods* Anyone have any figures for whether it's any more common on the TDCi/HDi lumps than on the VAG tdi?
From: Albert T Cone on 26 Feb 2010 06:16 Steve Firth wrote: > Chris Bartram <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: > >>> I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new. >>> Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself. It doesn't pull at >>> all until it gets to 2500rpm then as usual it's all over by 4000 rpm. >>> How narrow does a power band have to be for the dieselistas? >>> >> It must have been fucked. > > Nah, it's just that diseasel drivers don't have a clue about driving > since all they are focussed on is MPG. They're even too dense to work > out that the extra cost of a diesel and the extra cost of diesel means > they'll not see a return on their capital this side of 100,000 miles. *swallows nerd bait* 100k miles will cost about �15k to fuel a typical 1.8-2.0 petrol car, and about �10k for an equivalent diesel. The difference in purchase price is typically <�1k, when new. Break-even mileage is closer to 20k than 100k. [1] When purchasing used, the break-even mileage is rather lower; for someone spending �4-5k it will be something closer to 6k miles. When you consider that modern diesels are adequately refined and quick for most people, and make their performance more readily available for the 'never above 4000rpm' masses, it's something of a no-brainer for the majority. Personally I prefer diesel for my utility vehicle (and appreciate the 700+ mile range of the fuel tank) and large displacement/turbo petrol for my entertainment. [1] that said, some of the modern turbo-petrols boast very impressive economy figures, so there may be a sea-change in the not-too distant.
From: Chris Bartram on 26 Feb 2010 08:16 On 25/02/2010 21:42, Steve Firth wrote: > Bored of VAG shite, yes. Ford actually make more interesting cars. I wouldn't say so, but whatever, if that's what you think. My boss has a Mondeo TDCI. It's a nice enough car, but I wouldn't say it's any more interesting than the equivalent Passat. Let's face it, for interesting, we wouldn't be talking about any eurobox really. As it is, my diseasel fits my needs well, isn't dull as ditchwater, and doesn't cost me a fortune.
From: Chris Bartram on 26 Feb 2010 08:19 On 25/02/2010 23:26, JackH wrote: > It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of > those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item, > that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look > in the flesh. To be fair, DMFs are probably an 80k service item on any car: Ford, PSA and VAG all have them fail. I'd say that's not a bad life for a clutch either, depending on use, so just replace them....
From: Conor on 26 Feb 2010 08:26
On 2010-02-25 23:58:42 +0000, JackH said: > I'm just going by what he's told me. No problem, fully understand. As you said, it appears to be more than just the pump. >> >> 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about 600 to replace. Works out at >> 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. > > Yes... or alternatively buy something else without a proven track > record of failures of this nature is perhaps the more sensible option. > > As I've pointed out many times before in the past, I didn't like the > 55 plate 130 Mondeo I tried anyway. > > On paper it made real sense - was stupidly cheap for such a new car, > but it wasn't a patch on the Passat it would have been replacing in > any respect other than it was a hatch and not a saloon, > unfortunately. > > I know you like them... I respect the fact you want to own and drive > one... but for me *personally*, it wasn't a patch on the Passat, so > don't look at the above as a 'how dare he diss my choice of car' kind > of statement. ;-) Not taken that way at all. Each to their own. I like Capris and that is definitely one of those "matter of tast: cars. > -- Conor i'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally. |