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From: AstraVanMann on 26 Feb 2010 13:59 "Albert T Cone" <a.k.kirby(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: >>> 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at >>> 0.75p per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early. >> >> And VAG have their share of DMF / Clutch problems. > > *nods* Anyone have any figures for whether it's any more common on the > TDCi/HDi lumps than on the VAG tdi? No idea, but I remember Doki's 406 needing it doing - one of many things that got him annoyed about the fact that he'd bought something french and diesel. -- "For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died."
From: AstraVanMann on 26 Feb 2010 14:01 "Chris Bartram" <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: >> It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of >> those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item, >> that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look >> in the flesh. > To be fair, DMFs are probably an 80k service item on any car: Ford, PSA > and VAG all have them fail. I'd say that's not a bad life for a clutch > either, depending on use, so just replace them.... I'd be shocked if a clutch needed replacing after 80k. -- "For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died."
From: Timo Geusch on 26 Feb 2010 15:42 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > On Feb 26, 7:26�am, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...(a)unixconsult.co.uk> > wrote: >> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: >> > Actually, I had to get an engine temperature sensor for the M3 the >> > other day - common failure on BMWs of that era, apparently. >> >> > Anyway... it was cheaper from the local BMW dealer than I could find >> > it anywhere online, including eBay and the usuals, as in GSF and ECP, >> > and it's come with a two year warranty as well. >> >> The bay has become an atrouciously overpriced source for a lot of parts >> - dunno when that started but I think a lot of people are trying to >> capitalise on the "it's on ebay, it must be a bargain" sentiment, even >> if it isn't. > > Quite possibly a knock on from how much the fees cost these days. Don't think so - Amazon fees aren't much cheaper, but a lot of things seem to be cheaper over there. -- '88 Porsche 911 Targa '95 Mercedes E280 estate '96 Elise S1 '90 Integrale 8V Kat
From: JackH on 26 Feb 2010 16:20 On Feb 26, 11:16 am, Albert T Cone <a.k.ki...(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: > Steve Firth wrote: > > Chris Bartram <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: > > >>> I had one of those Mk4 Golf TDis and ran it for two years from new. > >>> Experience tells me that you're deluding yourself. It doesn't pull at > >>> all until it gets to 2500rpm then as usual it's all over by 4000 rpm. > >>> How narrow does a power band have to be for the dieselistas? > > >> It must have been fucked. > > > Nah, it's just that diseasel drivers don't have a clue about driving > > since all they are focussed on is MPG. They're even too dense to work > > out that the extra cost of a diesel and the extra cost of diesel means > > they'll not see a return on their capital this side of 100,000 miles. > > *swallows nerd bait* 100k miles will cost about £15k to fuel a typical > 1.8-2.0 petrol car, and about £10k for an equivalent diesel. The > difference in purchase price is typically <£1k, when new. > Break-even mileage is closer to 20k than 100k. [1] There are other financial factors as well. Before I reel them off, and in anticipation of Mr Firths next batch of 'you're all pikeys!' comments, these aren't deciding factors for why I've got the Golf - they are however relevant to any projection of costs. . VED: The VED on mine is £125 a year. For a 1.6 16v or 2.0 petrol equivalent Golf estate, you're looking at £170 to £235 a year come April 2010. I'm not sure what the petrols need in terms of servicing, but I know the interval on mine is 10k miles... I would have thought the petrols would be that or 12k at best. With regards to his comments on the price differentiation between petrol and diesel, around here some places are selling it for the same price of late and the gap between the two has been pretty minimal for a while now. Worst case scenario of late around here is 3p a litre. Yes, you can get petrols that run on LPG... if you're prepared to a lot of money on getting something converted, and happy to still swallow the extra cost of running a petrol when you can't find a petrol station that sells LPG for miles. But to get back to the nub of what Mr Firth never seems to be able to understand and grasp, is I drive TDIs because I *prefer* them when it comes to my main car, than the petrol equivalents. > When purchasing used, the break-even mileage is rather lower; for > someone spending £4-5k it will be something closer to 6k miles. > > When you consider that modern diesels are adequately refined and quick > for most people, and make their performance more readily available for > the 'never above 4000rpm' masses, it's something of a no-brainer for the > majority. > > Personally I prefer diesel for my utility vehicle (and appreciate the > 700+ mile range of the fuel tank) and large displacement/turbo petrol > for my entertainment. *ding* Which is exactly why I've got a diesel estate for day in day out / family duties, and a bike / the current use of an M3, for everything else. > [1] that said, some of the modern turbo-petrols boast very impressive > economy figures, so there may be a sea-change in the not-too distant. Before or after the oil runs out? ;-) -- JackH
From: JackH on 26 Feb 2010 16:44
On Feb 26, 8:42 pm, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...(a)unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > > On Feb 26, 7:26 am, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...(a)unixconsult.co.uk> > > wrote: > >> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > >> > Actually, I had to get an engine temperature sensor for the M3 the > >> > other day - common failure on BMWs of that era, apparently. > > >> > Anyway... it was cheaper from the local BMW dealer than I could find > >> > it anywhere online, including eBay and the usuals, as in GSF and ECP, > >> > and it's come with a two year warranty as well. > > >> The bay has become an atrouciously overpriced source for a lot of parts > >> - dunno when that started but I think a lot of people are trying to > >> capitalise on the "it's on ebay, it must be a bargain" sentiment, even > >> if it isn't. > > > Quite possibly a knock on from how much the fees cost these days. > > Don't think so. I've had to dig in a bit more on some of the bike bits I've sold tbh, for that very reason. > Amazon fees aren't much cheaper, but a lot of things > seem to be cheaper over there. I've not tried there - not sure it's quite the ideal platform for bike spares though. ;-) -- JackH |