From: Brad on
Kev wrote:
> Brad wrote:
>
>
> These things were never sold here and were brought in as a Grey Import
> Your Family Member will need to be prepared to be ripped blind on all
> things, Insurance being the biggest
>

He only paid a few thousand for it, and I have to say condition and
appointments wise, it does look like amazing value. I guess what you save at
the front end, you risk on the back end if it breaks. But he's not unhappy
to even throw it away if it turns out to be a pig to own he says.

And you're right about insurance. Whoever his regular insurer is just said
"no thanks, we don't insure those comprehensively". So I imagine anyone that
does will charge an arm and a leg. Again, he's not concerned about only
having 3rd party luckily.

> the Engine maybe from the Galant the rest of the running gear isn't
> unless the VR was AWD but that won't guarantee that it would be the
> same

Apparently it is basically the same. If true at least he will be able to get
those parts. And the front guards from a nimbus fit I've been told.

--
Brad


From: Kev on
Brad wrote:
> Scotty wrote:
>> "Kev"<kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4c277fd4$0$1028$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> Brad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> These things were never sold here and were brought in as a Grey
>>> Import Your Family Member will need to be prepared to be ripped
>>> blind on all things, Insurance being the biggest
>>>
>>> the Engine maybe from the Galant the rest of the running gear isn't
>>> unless the VR was AWD but that won't guarantee that it would be the
>>> same
>>>
>>> Kev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The VR Galant was indeed 4Wheel Drive. In good order was great car.
>> Its just a pity that it too suffered the dreaded premature oil
>> control ring wearing.
>
> Any idea around what milage that becomes an issue?
>

as soon as the engine is started to drive it out the factory door

Kev
From: Kev on
Brad wrote:
> Kev wrote:
>> Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>> These things were never sold here and were brought in as a Grey Import
>> Your Family Member will need to be prepared to be ripped blind on all
>> things, Insurance being the biggest
>>
>
> He only paid a few thousand for it, and I have to say condition and
> appointments wise, it does look like amazing value. I guess what you save at
> the front end, you risk on the back end if it breaks. But he's not unhappy
> to even throw it away if it turns out to be a pig to own he says.
>
> And you're right about insurance. Whoever his regular insurer is just said
> "no thanks, we don't insure those comprehensively". So I imagine anyone that
> does will charge an arm and a leg. Again, he's not concerned about only
> having 3rd party luckily.

Been there, but since my 4Runner was a Surf on a 4Runner chassis I was
able to get it insured as an aftermarket turbo 4Runner. Otherwise I
wouldn't have been able to insure it(back when no one would acknowledge
the existence of the grey imports)

>
>> the Engine maybe from the Galant the rest of the running gear isn't
>> unless the VR was AWD but that won't guarantee that it would be the
>> same
>
> Apparently it is basically the same. If true at least he will be able to get
> those parts. And the front guards from a nimbus fit I've been told.
>

Sounds like they may have built them on the Galant floorpan


Kev
From: Noddy on

"Brad" <optional(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
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> The ticking subsides when it warms up, so probably not that. But sounds
> like a good tip for the future.
>
> The mechanic has it now, so will probably find out the verdict tomorrow.

Most mitsu engines of that vintage have hydraulic lash adjusters in the
rocker arms, and they're particularly prone to being clocked with sludge or
the oil passages being blocked which prevents them from pumping up and being
quiet. They'll usually quiet down once the engine warms up, but it's not
uncommon for a few of them to refuse to play at all and remain "ticky".
There's a specific procedure for bleeding them if they're noisy, but that
involves pulling them out which isn't a 5 minute job. Last time I looked for
some only genuine ones were available and they were about 45 bucks each
which is pretty hot for something an inch long by half an inch in diameter,
but there may be non genuine replacements around these days.

If you do discover the noise is caused by the lash adjusters and have them
replaced (which will be costly), then giving the engine a diet of a decent
oil, changed regularly, will definitely help keep them in good order. I used
to feed Mitsu engines with hydraulic lash adjusters Penrite HPR-15 which is
a 15w-60 semi synthetic and it worked *really* well at keeping them in good
order even after some horrendously hard working high mileage applications.

Another option you could try if you were so inclined, but it would involve a
bit of work, would be to swap the hydraulically actuated rocker gear for the
manually adjusted variety from an earlier engine.

You'd need to do a bit of detective work to see what fits what, but I know
on some of the 4G63 engines as fitted to the L-300 vans I had to change a
couple of them from hydraulic to manual for a couple of clients who got sick
of changing lifters. The 4g63 of the L-300 was just a basic 8 valve engine,
and I *think* from memory the rocker arms from some of the early Magna 4
cylinders could be used on the later model hydraulic shafts. It certainly
worked well for those customers who wanted it done, but with the down side
being that they needed regular valve lash adjustments. Still, in their
opinion that was cheaper and more reliable than replacing lash adjusters
every so often.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Scotty on

"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4c2872fc$0$12922$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
: Brad wrote:
: > Scotty wrote:
: >> "Kev"<kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
: >> news:4c277fd4$0$1028$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
: >>> Brad wrote:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> These things were never sold here and were brought in as a Grey
: >>> Import Your Family Member will need to be prepared to be ripped
: >>> blind on all things, Insurance being the biggest
: >>>
: >>> the Engine maybe from the Galant the rest of the running gear isn't
: >>> unless the VR was AWD but that won't guarantee that it would be the
: >>> same
: >>>
: >>> Kev
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>
: >> The VR Galant was indeed 4Wheel Drive. In good order was great car.
: >> Its just a pity that it too suffered the dreaded premature oil
: >> control ring wearing.
: >
: > Any idea around what milage that becomes an issue?
: >
:
: as soon as the engine is started to drive it out the factory door
:
: Kev

Ive seen em smokey at around 100k.Its a pity really as most of teh Misis are quite good cars. The
oil/smoke issues tend to have given them sucha bad wrap. Apart from the fact that many people who
own them dont actually be bothered getting the smoke issue rectified, they just keep driving them.



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