From: OzOne on
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:31:25 +1000, "Brad" <optional(a)REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote:

>A family member bought one of these today. A 1995 model auto 4WD vanny
>thing, with a 2.0l engine, apparently from the Galant VR. It has 150,000km
>on the clock.
>
>Does anyone here know anything about these things? I had a quick look at it
>and it's making a constant "tick" sound from the top end, that seems to go
>away when it warms up. There looks be be an oil leak, or one that has been
>fixed, as a dryish oily patch is visible on the bottom of the engine, and a
>pipe connecting to the bottom of the radiator (maybe from the transmission)
>looked like it had a minor leak.
>
>On the way home from buying it apparently the ticking noise grew louder and
>it lost power, so they pulled over for a few minutes, then re-started it and
>drove home fine. (I'm not 100% sure some operator error did not come into
>play there, but that's what they reported)
>
>I 'think' the seller sounds like someone who buys cars, fixes them up, then
>flogs them, and maybe has dodgied something up.
>
>Will be taking it to a mechanic for a service and check tomorrow but hoping
>to gather any info on these things, and what is prone to go wrong with them,
>beforehand so I can ensure it's checked properly.

It's had an oil change with the wrong grade oil or is sludged up after
not having regular changes.
Change it to say Edge 0-40 or 5-30 and run it for a couple of
weeks....It will probably smoke a bit after 150,000km.
Change again to a something like 10-40 Magnatec and it should be fine.
Change every 10,000 after that and if it's still a good engine it
should be fine.





OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: hippo on
Noddy wrote:
>
>
> "Brad" <optional(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4c28640a(a)news.x-privat.org...
>
> > The ticking subsides when it warms up, so probably not that. But sounds
> > like a good tip for the future.
> >
> > The mechanic has it now, so will probably find out the verdict tomorrow.
>
> Most mitsu engines of that vintage have hydraulic lash adjusters in the
> rocker arms, and they're particularly prone to being clocked with sludge or
> the oil passages being blocked which prevents them from pumping up and being
> quiet. They'll usually quiet down once the engine warms up, but it's not
> uncommon for a few of them to refuse to play at all and remain "ticky".
> There's a specific procedure for bleeding them if they're noisy, but that
> involves pulling them out which isn't a 5 minute job. Last time I looked for
> some only genuine ones were available and they were about 45 bucks each
> which is pretty hot for something an inch long by half an inch in diameter,
> but there may be non genuine replacements around these days.
>
> If you do discover the noise is caused by the lash adjusters and have them
> replaced (which will be costly), then giving the engine a diet of a decent
> oil, changed regularly, will definitely help keep them in good order. I used
> to feed Mitsu engines with hydraulic lash adjusters Penrite HPR-15 which is
> a 15w-60 semi synthetic and it worked *really* well at keeping them in good
> order even after some horrendously hard working high mileage applications.
>
> Another option you could try if you were so inclined, but it would involve a
> bit of work, would be to swap the hydraulically actuated rocker gear for the
> manually adjusted variety from an earlier engine.
>
> You'd need to do a bit of detective work to see what fits what, but I know
> on some of the 4G63 engines as fitted to the L-300 vans I had to change a
> couple of them from hydraulic to manual for a couple of clients who got sick
> of changing lifters. The 4g63 of the L-300 was just a basic 8 valve engine,
> and I *think* from memory the rocker arms from some of the early Magna 4
> cylinders could be used on the later model hydraulic shafts. It certainly
> worked well for those customers who wanted it done, but with the down side
> being that they needed regular valve lash adjustments. Still, in their
> opinion that was cheaper and more reliable than replacing lash adjusters
> every so often.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>
>
>

Did something I *never* usually do on the 12V Excel X3 that went all
clattery: flushed it twice 5000Kms apart. Still running like a (rather
elderly Korean) sewing machine 20+ 000 later. Worth trying on this one?

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From: Noddy on

"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
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> Did something I *never* usually do on the 12V Excel X3 that went all
> clattery: flushed it twice 5000Kms apart. Still running like a (rather
> elderly Korean) sewing machine 20+ 000 later. Worth trying on this one?

Possibly.

The bleed procedure for the lash adjusters involves pumping them up with
diesel which also helps to clean them, so a flush or two at close intervals
may do something similar.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Fraser Johnston on

"Brad" <optional(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:4c26f050(a)news.x-privat.org...
>A family member bought one of these today. A 1995 model auto 4WD vanny thing,
>with a 2.0l engine, apparently from the Galant VR. It has 150,000km on the
>clock.
>
> Does anyone here know anything about these things? I had a quick look at it
> and it's making a constant "tick" sound from the top end, that seems to go
> away when it warms up. There looks be be an oil leak, or one that has been
> fixed, as a dryish oily patch is visible on the bottom of the engine, and a
> pipe connecting to the bottom of the radiator (maybe from the transmission)
> looked like it had a minor leak.
>
> On the way home from buying it apparently the ticking noise grew louder and
> it lost power, so they pulled over for a few minutes, then re-started it and
> drove home fine. (I'm not 100% sure some operator error did not come into
> play there, but that's what they reported)
>
> I 'think' the seller sounds like someone who buys cars, fixes them up, then
> flogs them, and maybe has dodgied something up.
>
> Will be taking it to a mechanic for a service and check tomorrow but hoping
> to gather any info on these things, and what is prone to go wrong with them,
> beforehand so I can ensure it's checked properly.


Why would you not get the mechanic to check it BEFORE you buy it????????

Fraser


From: Brad on
Scotty wrote:
> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4c2872fc$0$12922$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Brad wrote:
>>> Scotty wrote:
>>>> "Kev"<kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:4c277fd4$0$1028$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> Brad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These things were never sold here and were brought in as a Grey
>>>>> Import Your Family Member will need to be prepared to be ripped
>>>>> blind on all things, Insurance being the biggest
>>>>>
>>>>> the Engine maybe from the Galant the rest of the running gear
>>>>> isn't unless the VR was AWD but that won't guarantee that it
>>>>> would be the same
>>>>>
>>>>> Kev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The VR Galant was indeed 4Wheel Drive. In good order was great car.
>>>> Its just a pity that it too suffered the dreaded premature oil
>>>> control ring wearing.
>>>
>>> Any idea around what milage that becomes an issue?
>>>
>>
>> as soon as the engine is started to drive it out the factory door
>>
>> Kev
>
> Ive seen em smokey at around 100k.Its a pity really as most of teh
> Misis are quite good cars. The oil/smoke issues tend to have given
> them sucha bad wrap. Apart from the fact that many people who own
> them dont actually be bothered getting the smoke issue rectified,
> they just keep driving them.

It's not fumey from the oil filler cap, or smokey from the exhaust, so maybe
that's a good sign.

It's had the timing belt replaced recently, for what that's worth knowing.

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Brad


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