Monbiot on speed cameras and the real war
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From: Brimstone on 29 Jul 2010 04:45 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:p7q7a51u9wnb.1doz1057u0lqs.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:21:49 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >>> "colloquial" is what we use in everyday speech, it's the dictionary >>> definition. If specialists use it another way, that's a specialists >>> definition for internal use by them. >>> >> "Colloquial" is also what people use when they're uneducated or too lazy >> to >> use correct terminology. > > Nonsense. Colloquial language is the everyday language of all people, > educated or not. "Pavement" in everyday english means footway. In legal or > technical conversations it means otherwise. If you use that technical > usage > in everyday speech, it is *you* who are wrong. > Nevertheless, to get back to the original point that started this pointless exchange, the footway (pavement as you choose to call it) is a part of the road and cyclists kill more vulnerable users of it.
From: boltar2003 on 29 Jul 2010 04:45 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:49:24 +0100 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> There arn't many overbridges round where I live and you can see them a >> mile >> off anyway. An unmoving car parked on a bridge is a bit of a giveaway. >> >It doesn't have to be a parked car. It could be a copper with a camera >handheld or on a tripod. They're pretty rare. No copper wants to stand around all day in the cold/heat. They'd far sooner sit in a comfy car and read The Sun while the computer does all the work. B2003
From: Brimstone on 29 Jul 2010 04:48 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i2rf47$4hs$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:49:24 +0100 > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> There arn't many overbridges round where I live and you can see them a >>> mile >>> off anyway. An unmoving car parked on a bridge is a bit of a giveaway. >>> >>It doesn't have to be a parked car. It could be a copper with a camera >>handheld or on a tripod. > > They're pretty rare. No copper wants to stand around all day in the > cold/heat. > They'd far sooner sit in a comfy car and read The Sun while the computer > does > all the work. > Their rarity doesn't diminish the resulting penalty.
From: Brimstone on 29 Jul 2010 05:09 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1v7ba8bls2ics$.1qzplkkzlyecy$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:34:57 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >> If one knows the road then one can be travelling at a legal speed before >> one >> comes into view of the the camera site. > > No good for me. Most of my milage is on once a year or less roads. My > local > milage i'm pottering along in the old Hyundai anyway. I agree if you know > all the regular camera sights on roads you use a lot you can probably get > away with it. In my locality 90% of the mobile speed traps are in one > (safe) location, in fact the safest piece of road in the area, hence they > catch people. I would prefer it outside the school. > I was thinking more or motorways and other roads with over bridges upon which coppers can station themselves with speed cameras.
From: boltar2003 on 29 Jul 2010 05:25
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:02:11 +0100 Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:45:59 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: > >>>It doesn't have to be a parked car. It could be a copper with a camera >>>handheld or on a tripod. >> >> They're pretty rare. No copper wants to stand around all day in the >cold/heat. > >they may not want to but they do. Often enough nowadays to get you up to 12 >points if you drive fast all the time. Well I'm not talking FAST , I'm talking about 5-10mph above the limit which is what most people do so that copper would have paperwork to keep him busy for the rest of his career if he pulled over everyone who did that. B2003 |