From: Ian Jackson on 30 Jul 2010 03:28 In message <7xkp3btizb0q.1l838lhbveyfr.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> writes >On 28 Jul 2010 20:56:56 GMT, Adrian wrote: > >> A schoolfriend's mother finally passed her test - I forget exactly how >> many attempts, but well into double figures. > >and the people most likely to kill somebody on the roads probably sailed >through the test first time. I'm a poor example for your theory. I passed first time 50 years ago (although I can't remember if I 'sailed through'). Since then, I must have driven a fairly vast number of miles. I've had three real (insurance) accidents - one of which was my fault, but fortunately I have failed miserably to come anywhere near to killing anyone. I intend to continue to keep my wits about me and, with a bit of luck, hope to carry on failing. -- Ian
From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 04:03 "Matt B" <matt.bourke(a)nospam.london.com> wrote in message news:8bf9d8Fi9hU1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 30/07/2010 07:12, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:02:15 +0100, JNugent wrote: >> >>> IOW, road tax (where charged) is a charge for the use of the roads. >> >> no, its a *tax* on those who use powered vehicles on the roads > > ITYM, _yes_, it's a *tax* on _some_ of those who use powered vehicles on > _public_ roads. > <pedant mode> ITYM it's a tax on all powered vehicles although some are set at a zero rate at the moment. </pedant mode>
From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 04:12 "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:2caf9bqzofjz$.ni2dcs8zsf5r$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:35:25 +0100, Brimstone wrote: > >> o it varies from person to person. Why is that a problem? >>> >> If you hadn't snipped the rest of my post it would have been clear. Go >> back >> and reread it. > > theres nothing in the rest that makes any difference. > Untrue. "Hence we get people pootling along at 35 mph in a 60 limit when the road is good for 70+ and other people doing vastly greater speeds on the same section of road." explains why "Because what is, or is not, safe varies from person to person. " is a problem.
From: Matt B on 30 Jul 2010 04:39 On 30/07/2010 09:03, Brimstone wrote: > > "Matt B" <matt.bourke(a)nospam.london.com> wrote in message > news:8bf9d8Fi9hU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 30/07/2010 07:12, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:02:15 +0100, JNugent wrote: >>> >>>> IOW, road tax (where charged) is a charge for the use of the roads. >>> >>> no, its a *tax* on those who use powered vehicles on the roads >> >> ITYM, _yes_, it's a *tax* on _some_ of those who use powered vehicles >> on _public_ roads. >> > <pedant mode> > > ITYM it's a tax on all powered vehicles although some are set at a zero > rate at the moment. > > </pedant mode> <pedant strength="maximum"> Only those that are required to be registered and to display a licence disc. </pedant> -- Matt B
From: Adrian on 30 Jul 2010 04:41
Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > So am I, but we both know and understand what's behind my comment I > think. Injury accidents are mostly the province of the technically > competant, confident male, not the bumbling old lady who takes 15 > attempts to pass. Except, of course, the "bumbling old lady" wasn't either bumbling or old when she did pass. |