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From: Tony Raven on 31 Jul 2010 14:12 Brimstone wrote: > > Whose expectation would this be and what has having a driving licence > got to do with formulating transport policy? > > If you're not one of them you're against them ;-) -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell
From: Nick Finnigan on 31 Jul 2010 14:27 Matt B wrote: > On 31/07/2010 17:08, Nick Finnigan wrote: >> Matt B wrote: >>> On 31/07/2010 15:45, Nick Finnigan wrote: >>>> >>>> Traffic speeds are exactly the same as in a modern British street. >>>> Casualty rates are so low anywhere that there is no significant >>>> variation. >>> >>> That demonstrates the point I was getting at then. >> >> You seemed to be implying that traffic speeds at junctions would be >> slower, and casualty rates lower, with no kerbs / markings. > > Yes, at any given location, if they were there before. It does not demonstrate your point at all then. They'd probably > be higher in your street if such "safety" devices were now added. No, they would be exactly the same.
From: Brimstone on 31 Jul 2010 15:12 "Tony Raven" <traven(a)gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message news:zaednWhZspAW-snRnZ2dnUVZ7tAAAAAA(a)pipex.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> Whose expectation would this be and what has having a driving licence got >> to do with formulating transport policy? >> >> > > If you're not one of them you're against them ;-) > That does seem to be the mentality in many cases.
From: JNugent on 31 Jul 2010 15:33 Brimstone wrote: > > "Tony Raven" <traven(a)gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message > news:zaednWhZspAW-snRnZ2dnUVZ7tAAAAAA(a)pipex.net... >> Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> Whose expectation would this be and what has having a driving licence >>> got to do with formulating transport policy? >>> >>> >> >> If you're not one of them you're against them ;-) >> > That does seem to be the mentality in many cases. It's more a case of if you're against 'em you're against 'em.
From: Brimstone on 2 Aug 2010 04:52
"Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1y09vqv0mq8pk$.oe45ckrfbxii.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:33:33 +0100, JNugent wrote: > >> The ability to drive a car is not like being the captain of an airliner >> or a >> ship's master. It is an ordinary, everyday, skill which one can >> reasonably >> expect anyone of sound senses and sound mind to have accomplished. > > except metrosexual twits. Although Castle wasn't like that. I wonder how > many women then did not drive? > AIUI, the majority. It was seen as being the man's job. |