Monbiot on speed cameras and the real war
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From: Ian Dalziel on 3 Aug 2010 03:03 On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Derek C <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >On Aug 2, 10:29�pm, Ian Dalziel <iandalz...(a)lineone.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:02:51 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man >> >> <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >On 2 Aug 2010 09:57:30 GMT, Adrian wrote: >> >> >> There was certainly nothing unusual about women driving by the late '60s/ >> >> >but also nothing unusual for a woman not to drive and not grounds for >> >assuming Castle anti car. >> >> Erm... I don't know if anyone's interested, but it has already been >> pointed out that it wasn't Barbara Castle who introduced the 70 >> limit... >> >It was her that made it permanent. It was originally introduced as a >temporary measure after a series of fog related accidents, AC and >Jaguar found testing high performance sports-racing cars on the M1, >and from memory I think also because of some sort of fuel shortage >crisis. > itym "temporary". It was supposed to be an experiment. - there was always the possibility of extending it. (Your memory seems to be conflating the 70 and 50 limits, btw) -- Ian D
From: Ian Dalziel on 3 Aug 2010 03:04 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 07:04:44 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:29:39 +0100, Ian Dalziel wrote: > >>>but also nothing unusual for a woman not to drive and not grounds for >>>assuming Castle anti car. >> >> Erm... I don't know if anyone's interested, but it has already been >> pointed out that it wasn't Barbara Castle who introduced the 70 >> limit... > >but she confirmed it, didn't she. Its quite obvious the wide introduction >of max speed limits wasn't connected to one personality in one country, but >there you go. Well, indeed. I don't quite see how rubber-stamping an existing measure implies a more rabid anti-car attitude than introducing it, but as you say, there you go. -- Ian D
From: Tony Raven on 3 Aug 2010 03:47 Ian Dalziel wrote: > > Well, indeed. I don't quite see how rubber-stamping an existing > measure implies a more rabid anti-car attitude than introducing it, > but as you say, there you go. > These days it would have been called a pilot, not experimental. Tony
From: Brimstone on 3 Aug 2010 04:42 "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:0b013cf7-9f15-4004-ba03-2189eb861767(a)o19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 3, 7:13 am, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Derek C wrote: >> > Now a Mars bar alone >> > costs almost that, and they are smaller than they were then! >> >> but in 1965 I earned �660 pounds per annum. People always confuse falls >> in >> the value of money with increased price :-) >> -- >> Mike >> Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine > > You mean inflation caused by several inept Labour Governments? Not forgetting Mrs T pushing inflation to over 20%.
From: Derek Geldard on 3 Aug 2010 07:35
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 09:42:45 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Not forgetting Mrs T pushing inflation to over 20%. > Very high inflation was a world wide phenomena at the time. Derek |