Monbiot on speed cameras and the real war
in [UK Drivers]
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From: Derek C on 28 Jul 2010 02:47 On Jul 28, 7:29 am, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: > > "Penning might have fallen for another tabloid myth: that speed > > cameras are unpopular. The most recent poll whose results I can find > > shows that 82% of British people surveyed approve of them, and that > > the percentage has been rising." > > I must only ever meet the other 18% then. > -- > Mike > Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine I agree! Most drivers drive sensibly and more or less within the law. Anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso camera should be done for driving without due care and attention anyway. There are other ways of enforcing speed limits and good driving standards. Derek
From: Squashme on 28 Jul 2010 03:02 On 28 July, 07:47, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > On Jul 28, 7:29 am, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: > > > "Penning might have fallen for another tabloid myth: that speed > > > cameras are unpopular. The most recent poll whose results I can find > > > shows that 82% of British people surveyed approve of them, and that > > > the percentage has been rising." > > > I must only ever meet the other 18% then. > > -- > > Mike > > Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine > > I agree! Most drivers drive sensibly and more or less within the law. > Anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso camera should be > done for driving without due care and attention anyway. There are > other ways of enforcing speed limits and good driving standards. > I am sure that there may be "other ways of enforcing speed limits and good driving standards", but how will you do for driving without due care and attention anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso camera, if you get rid of these cameras?
From: Mrcheerful on 28 Jul 2010 03:04 Squashme wrote: > On 28 July, 07:47, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> On Jul 28, 7:29 am, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: >>>> "Penning might have fallen for another tabloid myth: that speed >>>> cameras are unpopular. The most recent poll whose results I can >>>> find shows that 82% of British people surveyed approve of them, >>>> and that the percentage has been rising." >> >>> I must only ever meet the other 18% then. >>> -- >>> Mike >>> Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine >> >> I agree! Most drivers drive sensibly and more or less within the law. >> Anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso camera should be >> done for driving without due care and attention anyway. There are >> other ways of enforcing speed limits and good driving standards. >> > > I am sure that there may be "other ways of enforcing speed limits and > good driving standards", but how will you do for driving without due > care and attention anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso > camera, if you get rid of these cameras? traffic police out on the road in cars (not bicycles)
From: Squashme on 28 Jul 2010 03:07 On 28 July, 08:04, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > Squashme wrote: > > On 28 July, 07:47, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Jul 28, 7:29 am, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > >> wrote: > > >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Squashme wrote: > >>>> "Penning might have fallen for another tabloid myth: that speed > >>>> cameras are unpopular. The most recent poll whose results I can > >>>> find shows that 82% of British people surveyed approve of them, > >>>> and that the percentage has been rising." > > >>> I must only ever meet the other 18% then. > >>> -- > >>> Mike > >>> Gone Beyond the Ultimate Driving Machine > > >> I agree! Most drivers drive sensibly and more or less within the law. > >> Anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso camera should be > >> done for driving without due care and attention anyway. There are > >> other ways of enforcing speed limits and good driving standards. > > > I am sure that there may be "other ways of enforcing speed limits and > > good driving standards", but how will you do for driving without due > > care and attention anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso > > camera, if you get rid of these cameras? > > traffic police out on the road in cars (not bicycles) Watching the now-dead yellow camera sites?
From: bugbear on 28 Jul 2010 04:27
Mrcheerful wrote: > Squashme wrote: >> I am sure that there may be "other ways of enforcing speed limits and >> good driving standards", but how will you do for driving without due >> care and attention anyone who drives at high speed past a yellow Gatso >> camera, if you get rid of these cameras? > > traffic police out on the road in cars (not bicycles) If machines can do it cheaper, in this age of recession, why not use machines, leaving humans to do jobs that require more flexibility. It was interested to read that speed cameras are a net revenue loser for the government, despite the repeated claim by people who want to break the speed limit that they're "just" for raising money. BugBear |