From: Doug on
On 9 June, 13:49, ash <ash.fil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 June, 06:03, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But they are still allowed on the roads though. So if a car catches
> > fire and thus causes the driver to loose control and kill a cyclist,
> > who then is to blame? The cyclist for getting in the way? Or OTOH it
> > doesn't matter because not enough people have been killed by it yet?
> > Such are the arguments used by motorists here to justify the
> > continuing use of cars which are known to have dangerous faults.
>
> > "GM recalls 1.5m vehicles because of fire risk
>
> > General Motors is recalling 1.5m vehicles because of a risk of fire in
> > the heated washer system.
>
> > The recall affects a large range of its cars including Buicks,
> > Cadillacs and Chevrolets, mostly in the US.
>
> > GM said it had recalled the vehicles in 2008 in an effort to fix the
> > problem, but there had been new reports of "thermal incidents".
>
> > These range from minor faults to considerable melting of plastic, the
> > US carmaker said.
>
> > As a consequence of the problem, it was possible for the heated washer
> > module to ignite and for a fire to occur, the US National Highway
> > Safety Administration (NHSA) said..."
>
> > More:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10268555.stm
>
> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns.http://www.zing.icom43.net
> > A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
> Hey Doug, I agree with you totally. These electrical fires are a
> nightmare in vehicles. You really need to do your homework - people in
> glass houses.....
>
> Quote - I have just had the misfortune (or perhaps fortune) to
> discover that my li-ion battery has suffered a thermal event! This
> evening I noticed that the plastic casing of the battery pack had a
> small dimple in it that look like it had melted a bit. On removing the
> outer casing and taking a look at the cells inside I was horrified to
> see that one of the cells had burnt at one corner! Thankfully the
> damage was limited to just that one cell and obviously the battery
> pack has not (yet) gone into a castastrophic runaway thermal breakdown
> (or huge fire to you and me!).
>
> I have of course placed the battery as far from my house as possible
> (it's in the shed and it's staying there!) while I contact
> electricbikesales.co.uk to claim under the 6 month warranty. I shall
> keep you posted as to how things go with them. I'm not sure I want a
> replacement li-ion though!
>
> I consider myself lucky that I have discovered the problem prior to
> the pack causing a fire. I had read that li-ions must be treated with
> a healthy respect and thus thankfully always stored my battery outside
> of the house and never left the battery charging unattended either.
>
> Let this serve as a wake up call to all li-ion owners! Store those li-
> ions outside your house when not in use. They are not house pets!
>
> http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/195-dangers-li-ion-...
>
So no huge fire then and the important other difference is that a car
crashing is much more dangerous than a bicycle crashing.

Do you have a mobile phone or laptop? There is probably a lithium
battery in those too, they are everywhere these days, so will you
leave them outside? Much depends on how the batteries are treated of
course. I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.

BTW are you familiar with the use of quote marks to distinguish
between your text and text you have quoted? It makes reading much
easier.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.





From: FrengaX on
On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:

> Do you have a mobile phone or laptop? There is probably a lithium
> battery in those too, they are everywhere these days, so will you
> leave them outside? Much depends on how the batteries are treated of
> course. I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.

I keep mine in the laptop. It tends to work better that way.
From: Derek C on
On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:

> I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.

Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!
From: bod on
Derek C wrote:
> On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.
>
> Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!
>
>

Batteries don't work so well when they are cold.

Bod
From: Mrcheerful on
bod wrote:
> Derek C wrote:
>> On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.
>>
>> Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!
>>
>>
>
> Batteries don't work so well when they are cold.
>
> Bod

and fridges cause pollution