From: Adrian on
bugbear <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> if by 'everyone' you mean the motorists here, I don't always reply
>> because there are too many of them responding to my posts. Also some of
>> them ask silly questions or are insulting, etc, which therefore does
>> not warrant a response.
>>
>> I do hope this clarifies the matter for you.

> So you're only preaching to the converted, which is pointless.

Not quite. He's more akin to the loon that stands on the High St wearing
a sandwich board proclaiming loudly that the end of the world is nigh,
whilst steadfastly ignoring both heckling and attempts at rational debate.
From: GT on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:25887f68-7ebb-4681-a74b-ddf351558404(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On 10 June, 08:49, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.
>
> Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!

Doug didnt post properly:
"Duh! Its recommended practice as a precaution against overheating/fire
and it is supposed to extend the life of the battery when it is not
being used.
"

Recommended by who? No one in the IT support sections I have worked in has
ever heard of that and not by Dell, from whom we buy all our laptops!
Putting a laptop battery in the fridge is actually dangerous because when
you remove it from the fridge it will attract condensation until it has
warmed to room temperature. So if you want to store it in there, I would
recommend placing it in a sealed plastic bag before putting it in and
leaving it somewhere to warm up for at least an hour before you use it. Damp
around the contacts of the battery could easily blow the charging circuit on
the motherboard, leaving you with a high repair bill - probably new
motherboard on a laptop!


From: GT on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:a221fbca-b13b-4b39-a462-e1d1fa20d585(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 June, 11:27, bugbear <bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>> > On 9 June, 13:03, "GT" <ContactGT_rem_o...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:9b8f8619-e343-4e5e-aaef-7d7082bd506a(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>> But they are still allowed on the roads though. So if a car catches
>> >>> fire and thus causes the driver to loose control and kill a cyclist,
>> >>> who then is to blame?
>> >> That is a fair point - we should introduce annual tests on vehicle to
>> >> ensure
>> >> they comply with some sort of roadworthy standard. That should iron
>> >> out most
>> >> of these unfortunate accidents. Oh sorry, I forgot - we can't call
>> >> them
>> >> accidents because Doug thinks that car drivers deliberately kill other
>> >> people!
>>
>> >> Incidentally Doug - you still haven't replied to the other valid
>> >> points that
>> >> everyone has made about the use of the word weapon.
>>
>> > if by 'everyone' you mean the motorists here, I don't always reply
>> > because there are too many of them responding to my posts. Also some
>> > of them ask silly questions or are insulting, etc, which therefore
>> > does not warrant a response.
>>
>> > I do hope this clarifies the matter for you.
>>
>> So you're only preaching to the converted,
>> which is pointless.
>>
> They are not all converted, yet.

And preaching is not the way to convert most people to a cause. You may be
easily brainwashed by preaching, but the rest of us rely on facts, figures,
information and our own experiences in life. Hence me using my safe,
reliable, cost-efficient vehicle (a 2 litre petrol family car) to transport
my family here and there, rather than public transport which tends to get
blown up, runs late, or gets caught in rock falls etc etc. My 3-year-old and
5-year-old are not confident enough to ride their bicycles on the motorway
when we go for days out yet, so we are rather limited that way!


From: Doug on
On 10 June, 13:20, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:25887f68-7ebb-4681-a74b-ddf351558404(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 June, 08:49, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > > I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.
>
> > Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!
>
> Doug didnt post properly:
> "Duh! Its recommended practice as a precaution against overheating/fire
> and it is supposed to extend the life of the battery when it is not
> being used.
> "
>
> Recommended by who? No one in the IT support sections I have worked in has
> ever heard of that and not by Dell, from whom we buy all our laptops!
>
You don't surprise me. Check this out...

http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

"...If you have a spare lithium-ion battery, use one to the fullest
and keep the other cool by placing it in the refrigerator. Do not
freeze the battery. For best results, store the battery at 40% state-
of-charge..."

> Putting a laptop battery in the fridge is actually dangerous because when
> you remove it from the fridge it will attract condensation until it has
> warmed to room temperature. So if you want to store it in there, I would
> recommend placing it in a sealed plastic bag before putting it in
>
Which I do.
>
> and
> leaving it somewhere to warm up for at least an hour before you use it. Damp
> around the contacts of the battery could easily blow the charging circuit on
> the motherboard, leaving you with a high repair bill - probably new
> motherboard on a laptop!
>
Very unlikely. I have no doubt the manufacturers have covered that
one. The main problem is the fully charged battery attached to your
laptop all the time, when you are running off the mains, which can
overheat and catch fire, though I gather this is less of a problem
than it used to be.

Doug.

From: Mr. Benn on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:a82a8249-8c0d-41a8-9c79-feb44047d287(a)c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 June, 13:20, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote:
>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:25887f68-7ebb-4681-a74b-ddf351558404(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> On 10 June, 08:49, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jun 10, 7:15 am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > I keep my laptop battery in the fridge.
>>
>> > Another example of strange behaviour by Doug!
>>
>> Doug didnt post properly:
>> "Duh! Its recommended practice as a precaution against overheating/fire
>> and it is supposed to extend the life of the battery when it is not
>> being used.
>> "
>>
>> Recommended by who? No one in the IT support sections I have worked in
>> has
>> ever heard of that and not by Dell, from whom we buy all our laptops!
>>
> You don't surprise me. Check this out...
>
> http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
>
> "...If you have a spare lithium-ion battery, use one to the fullest
> and keep the other cool by placing it in the refrigerator. Do not
> freeze the battery. For best results, store the battery at 40% state-
> of-charge..."

But there are two kinds of lithium. Good lithium and bad lithium.