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From: JNugent on 29 Dec 2009 09:42 Happi Monday wrote: > On 28/12/2009 20:37, The Medway Handyman wrote: >> Happi Monday wrote: >>> On 27/12/2009 13:43, The Medway Handyman wrote: >>> >>>> Thats fairly obvious. If only cyclists were as adept at avoiding >>>> collisions as they are at avoiding questions, they would be >>>> perfectly safe. >>> >>> Not with cnuts like you on the road, they aren't. >> >> But I've never hit a cyclist. I've been hit by one, in Amsterdam. > > > I'm not surprised - I'd clock you one too if I had the chance. You do. His contact details are easily available on the web. May I submit a bid for the popcorn rights?
From: Conor on 29 Dec 2009 10:33 In article <a3cf6e72-619c-4027-aa20-5c3fc6639d01 @d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > > I wonder how the residents get their food and the goods they buy.... > > > Shouldn't be too difficult for you to work it out. Think lifts instead > of cars, with trains bring the goods to the base of the city. Cycles > or electric buggies could be used for horizontal travel at each level. Really? Any idea how many tonnes of supplied an average town gets through in a day? Here's a clue, its well into four figures. Hell, the local Tesco in Bridlington gets 200 tonnes per day of deliveries and its not the sole supermarket nor the sole recipient of goods in that town. How many bicycles and electric buggies do you think it'd take to move 1000 tonnes of goods per day? -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Conor on 29 Dec 2009 10:34 In article <b462ef2d-e0ab-4b2b-80a7-66d73c5ff245 @j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > > On 28 Dec, 14:15, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <cda4c07c-3bff-4254-a6fd-76640e37e458 > > @e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > > > > > Another story from a long time ago, this time 16 months old. Since > > > then cars have killed about 4000 people. > > > Try and keep things into perspective. > > > > Since then cigarettes have killed around 150,000 people. > > Try to keep things in perspective. > > > This is about people killing other people, not people killing > themselves. OK, PASSIVE SMOKING kills 11,000 people per year, more than THREE TIMES that of cars, assuming no driver is ever killed. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Conor on 29 Dec 2009 10:36 In article <8f40c524-6d2d-4c2c-8dff-b762d4eaea25 @j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > > On 29 Dec, 07:34, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > > saying: > > > > >> > Another story from a long time ago, this time 16 months old. Since > > >> > then cars have killed about 4000 people. Try and keep things into > > >> > perspective. > > >> Since then cigarettes have killed around 150,000 people. Try to keep > > >> things in perspective. > > > This is about people killing other people, not people killing > > > themselves. > > > > So why are you including the "people killing themselves" deaths in the > > road deaths? > > > I'm not. Why do you imagine I am? Because you said that its about people killing others, not people killing themselves. So as some of that 3,000 road deaths (probably the majority) are going to be the drivers at fault, then you can't include them in the figure of 3000 which would reduce it probably by half. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Mike Sales on 29 Dec 2009 11:12
"Conor" wrote in message > OK, PASSIVE SMOKING kills 11,000 people per year, more than THREE TIMES > that of cars, assuming no driver is ever killed. > From the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution's 26th Report in 2006. The Report estimates 24,000 premature deaths per year. Air pollution 2.30 Road transport is a major source of urban air pollution. It emits pollutants that damage buildings,the natural environment and human health, reducing life expectancy in the UK by an averageof eight months.38 Key pollutants in the urban environment include carbon monoxide, nitrogenoxides, ozone, sulphur dioxide and particulates. Particulate matter is one of several types ofpollutants that come from exhaust gases and includes carbon and metal-based particles with a diameter of 10 �m or less (equal to one millionth of a metre) known as PM10. Due to the probable detrimental impact on human health, there is particular concern over ambient levels of ozone and fine particles (PM2.5 with a diameter of 2.5 �m or less). Moreover, the healtheffect of air pollution is greater in urban areas than in rural ones because low air quality is often associated with heavy traffic congestion and more people are exposed to pollution in towns andcities (Chapter 3). 38 Improved air quality can extend life expectancy. Defra News Release, 5 April 2006 In 2007 it was found that children living within 500m of a motorway "suffered more permanent lung damage and lower life expectancy." Another study, from the Centre for Hydrology and Ecology, said that pollution in central London increases mortality due to heart and lung disease by 2.8% compared with Inverness, Britain's least polluted city. (Living with a smoker increases mortality by 1.7%.) Mike Sales .. |