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From: Tony Dragon on 14 Dec 2009 13:34 Doug wrote: > On 14 Dec, 10:44, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> In article <e5be0338-24bc-4a99-9330-142d662bacd0@ >> 21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... >> >> >> >>> The EU is threatening to take the UK to court and be fined for its air >>> pollution but this only applies to PM10s, which are mainly emitted by >>> buses and lorries. Meanwhile motorists are completely free to emit >>> several other harmful pollutants, some of which are life threatening, >>> and get away with it. >>> One has to ask why the EU is ignoring those other harmful pollutants >>> in favour of motorists, who are 80% of all road transport? >> A person who is cycling emits more CO2 than someone who is using a bus. >> So why are cyclists free to emit excessive levels of greenhouse gases? >> > Probably because they are not nearly as excessive as that of > motorists. A line has to be drawn somewhere. > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns > www.zing.icom43.net > "The car, more of a toilet than a convenience". > > Who draws the line? -- Tony Dragon
From: Conor on 14 Dec 2009 14:36 In article <76dbda17-5a78-4138-b21c-84dbd4bd16b5 @v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > > That would be true if it weren't for the slightly inconvenient fact that > > cars have to have catalytic convertors and very tight emissions test. > > > Yes but they are only tested once a year and in the meantime can > pollute as much as they like as long as there is no visible smoke. Is the wrong answer. They can be pulled at any of the many random roadside checkpoints there are. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Conor on 14 Dec 2009 14:37 In article <zcmdnRu_xP2T87vWnZ2dnUVZ8g6dnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk>, Simon Mason says... > Wrong again. I eat the same whether I cycle or not. See below > All that happens is that > I gain weight So you actually eat more than you need. > which means more fossil fuels will be needed to shift my ever > increasing bulk on the odd occasion I drive my car. > I doubt a bus would notice the difference. > Do you know that horses emit more CO2 than humans? Learn the difference > between sustainable energy from food and non sustainable energy from fossil > fuels before talking such nonsense. I already apparently know far more than you. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Conor on 14 Dec 2009 14:39 In article <d2302fb7-518a-41c2-b063-a756e2a44ba9 @m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, MasonS(a)BP.com says... > The cobblers about extra CO2 breathing cyclists > is so laughable that one imagines bus loads of people who happen not > to eat and breathe at all. > So you're saying that someone cycling breathes the same volume as someone sat on a bus? > In reality of course, his lauded bus passengers and drivers who never > get their heart rate up past resting are the biggest cost to the NHS, More unsubstantiated rubbish. > Telling them that the "extra CO2" they breathe out during exercise > will damage the environment is beyond parody. Yet the eco-mentalists are doing exactly that. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: MasonS on 14 Dec 2009 14:51
On 14 Dec, 19:37, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > In article <zcmdnRu_xP2T87vWnZ2dnUVZ8g6dn...(a)eclipse.net.uk>, Simon > > > which means more fossil fuels will be needed to shift my ever > > increasing bulk on the odd occasion I drive my car. > > I doubt a bus would notice the difference. Just to put the tin hat on your lack of knowledge of physics, a bus that that uses *no more energy* however much you increase the mass of its cargo! You could be a multi millionaire if only you could put that into action. -- Simon Mason |