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From: MasonS on 15 Dec 2009 06:33 On 15 Dec, 11:20, Keitht <KeithT> wrote: > Conor wrote: > > In article <d323cf22-2e2c-4b56-b738- > > 9ec07bd76...(a)n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > >> On 14 Dec, 19:37, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >>> In article <zcmdnRu_xP2T87vWnZ2dnUVZ8g6dn...(a)eclipse.net.uk>, Simon > >>>> which means more fossil fuels will be needed to shift my ever > >>>> increasing bulk on the odd occasion I drive my car. > >>> I doubt a bus would notice the difference. > >> Just to put the tin hat on your lack of knowledge of physics, a bus > >> that that uses *no more energy* however much you increase the mass of > >> its cargo! > > > I used to drive lorries. I drove them far more than you're ever likely > > to cycle in your lifetime. Half a tonne extra wouldn't make any > > noticable difference on performance or fuel consumption, let alone > > 100kg. > > I think you missed a 'sonny-boy' there somewhere. > > Bless. > > -- > Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It's not just him that thinks there is free energy. I heard that Waitrose were slated for importing Fijian mineral water once. They said it was OK as it was on board a ship that was coming here anyway! -- Simon Mason
From: Mark on 15 Dec 2009 07:46 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:76dbda17-5a78-4138-b21c-84dbd4bd16b5(a)v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 14 Dec, 10:43, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> In article <e5be0338-24bc-4a99-9330-142d662bacd0@ >> 21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... >> >> >> >> > The EU is threatening to take the UK to court and be fined for its air >> > pollution but this only applies to PM10s, which are mainly emitted by >> > buses and lorries. Meanwhile motorists are completely free to emit >> > several other harmful pollutants, some of which are life threatening, >> > and get away with it. >> >> > One has to ask why the EU is ignoring those other harmful pollutants >> > in favour of motorists, who are 80% of all road transport? >> >> That would be true if it weren't for the slightly inconvenient fact that >> cars have to have catalytic convertors and very tight emissions test. >> > Yes but they are only tested once a year and in the meantime can > pollute as much as they like as long as there is no visible smoke. > Not true. Get the right car & you can produce loads of smoke without breaking the law. My old Peugeot 405 diesel has no cat, is running on Veg Oil & you should see the clouds that can produce after I've taken it easy for a while *1. It's *very* good at getting rid of BMW & Audi drivers who find it amusing to tailgate.. *1 - Nice chippy smell as well
From: Doug on 15 Dec 2009 11:49 On 14 Dec, 17:03, Silk <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > On 14/12/2009 08:02, Doug wrote: > > > The EU is threatening to take the UK to court and be fined for its air > > pollution but this only applies to PM10s, which are mainly emitted by > > buses and lorries. Meanwhile motorists are completely free to emit > > several other harmful pollutants, some of which are life threatening, > > and get away with it. > > There's not much we are allowed to get away with these days, so this is > a good thing. FWIW, my car is one of the lowest emitting cars you can > buy. It probably emits less CO2 than your gob. > That's what they all say, "My car is greener than most." LOL! It helps a flagging conscience I suppose. > > > One has to ask why the EU is ignoring those other harmful pollutants > > in favour of motorists, who are 80% of all road transport? > > One doesn't have to ask anything if one doesn't want to. I tell you > what, you ask them and report back. > I know why, pragmatism, the economy and above all votes. Because motorists are in a majority they are allowed to get away with it, especially as most of the legislators are also motorists. That is why pure democracy doesn't work and never has. Alas, the humble cyclist is way down on any list of those who deserve consideration by authorities. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net One man's democracy is another man's Aristotlean mob.
From: Pedt "" on 15 Dec 2009 20:32 In message <h1nVm.15049$Ym4.11167(a)text.news.virginmedia.com>, at 08:52:29 on Mon, 14 Dec 2009, The Medway Handyman <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wibbled >Doug wrote: > >World Carfree Network >http://www.worldcarfree.net/ >Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K. > >Are you seriously a member of this wacko outfit? > Probably only when it suits him. Bit like he is never at the demos he claims the protesters were subject to unwarranted brutality and when he says he's been to a climate camp he whinges that there was no police brutality to report. -- Pedt I used to be Unique, now I'm just Antique
From: Max on 15 Dec 2009 20:57
"Pedt" <"\"@ @\""@some.oddities-etc.co.uk> wrote in message news:jsh5KYbKjDKLFwRs(a)fishcake.eternal-september.org... > In message <h1nVm.15049$Ym4.11167(a)text.news.virginmedia.com>, at 08:52:29 > on Mon, 14 Dec 2009, The Medway Handyman > <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wibbled >>Doug wrote: >> >>World Carfree Network >>http://www.worldcarfree.net/ >>Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K. >> >>Are you seriously a member of this wacko outfit? >> > Probably only when it suits him. > > Bit like he is never at the demos he claims the protesters were subject to > unwarranted brutality and when he says he's been to a climate camp he > whinges that there was no police brutality to report. This is the Doug Bollen that has complained about cyclists using footpaths, yet insists on using them himself. This is the Doug Bollen that complains about people in motor vehicles, yet used to drive a 4*4 land rover. This is the Doug Bollen that complains about other people being "hypermobile" yet still insists on travelling to central London. This is the Doug Bollen that is a member of both CAMRA and alcholics anonymous. This is the Doug Bollen that used to insist on small un-economical aircraft when he use to fly, but campaigns aginst Heathrow airport. This is the Doug Bollen that has much of his food delivered via Heathrow airport yet campaign against said airport. This is the Doug Bollen that campaigns against destruction of the rain forrests, yet insists his faddy diet need food from those regions. This is the Doug Bollen that supported the IRA, yet complains about attacks against himself This is the Doug Bollen who denies the Nazi hollocaust...... Need I go on. |