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From: MasonS on 16 Dec 2009 13:01 On 15 Dec, 11:33, "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > On 15 Dec, 11:20, Keitht <KeithT> wrote: > > > > > > > Conor wrote: > > > In article <d323cf22-2e2c-4b56-b738- > > > 9ec07bd76...(a)n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > > >> On 14 Dec, 19:37, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > >>> In article <zcmdnRu_xP2T87vWnZ2dnUVZ8g6dn...(a)eclipse.net.uk>, Simon > > >>>> which means more fossil fuels will be needed to shift my ever > > >>>> increasing bulk on the odd occasion I drive my car. > > >>> I doubt a bus would notice the difference. > > >> Just to put the tin hat on your lack of knowledge of physics, a bus > > >> that that uses *no more energy* however much you increase the mass of > > >> its cargo! > > > > I used to drive lorries. I drove them far more than you're ever likely > > > to cycle in your lifetime. Half a tonne extra wouldn't make any > > > noticable difference on performance or fuel consumption, let alone > > > 100kg. > > > I think you missed a 'sonny-boy' there somewhere. > > > Bless. > > > -- > > Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > It's not just him that thinks there is free energy. I heard that > Waitrose were slated for importing Fijian mineral water once. They > said it was OK as it was on board a ship that was coming here anyway! > > -- > Simon Mason- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I remembered today an old workmate, who should have known better, stating that electric cars are 100% pollution free, as the coal powered stations providing the electricity don't really notice the extra demand by electric cars being plugged into the grid. -- Simon Mason
From: JNugent on 16 Dec 2009 13:08 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > I remembered today an old workmate, who should have known better, > stating that electric cars are 100% pollution free, as the coal > powered stations providing the electricity don't really notice the > extra demand by electric cars being plugged into the grid. Sounds like enough to guarantee a dishonourable discharge at BP.
From: Doug on 17 Dec 2009 02:05 On 16 Dec, 18:01, "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > On 15 Dec, 11:33, "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Dec, 11:20, Keitht <KeithT> wrote: > > > > Conor wrote: > > > > In article <d323cf22-2e2c-4b56-b738- > > > > 9ec07bd76...(a)n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > > > >> On 14 Dec, 19:37, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > > >>> In article <zcmdnRu_xP2T87vWnZ2dnUVZ8g6dn...(a)eclipse.net.uk>, Simon > > > >>>> which means more fossil fuels will be needed to shift my ever > > > >>>> increasing bulk on the odd occasion I drive my car. > > > >>> I doubt a bus would notice the difference. > > > >> Just to put the tin hat on your lack of knowledge of physics, a bus > > > >> that that uses *no more energy* however much you increase the mass of > > > >> its cargo! > > > > > I used to drive lorries. I drove them far more than you're ever likely > > > > to cycle in your lifetime. Half a tonne extra wouldn't make any > > > > noticable difference on performance or fuel consumption, let alone > > > > 100kg. > > > > I think you missed a 'sonny-boy' there somewhere. > > > > Bless. > > > > -- > > > Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > It's not just him that thinks there is free energy. I heard that > > Waitrose were slated for importing Fijian mineral water once. They > > said it was OK as it was on board a ship that was coming here anyway! > > > -- > > Simon Mason- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I remembered today an old workmate, who should have known better, > stating that electric cars are 100% pollution free, as the coal > powered stations providing the electricity don't really notice the > extra demand by electric cars being plugged into the grid. > The relevant point though is that they would reduce pollution on the streets where it is at its worse, especially in London. Better than all those filthy Chelsea tractors bombing around. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net "The car, more of a toilet than a convenience".
From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Dec 2009 03:33 The Medway Handyman wrote: > Doug wrote: > > World Carfree Network > http://www.worldcarfree.net/ > Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K. > > Are you seriously a member of this wacko outfit? It's OK, I've twigged. It was a wind up right? Had me fooled, for a while I thought http://www.worldcarfree.net/ was for real! -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: Simon Dean on 17 Dec 2009 15:57
Doug wrote: > The EU is threatening to take the UK to court and be fined for its air > pollution but this only applies to PM10s, which are mainly emitted by > buses and lorries. Meanwhile motorists are completely free to emit > several other harmful pollutants, some of which are life threatening, > and get away with it. > > One has to ask why the EU is ignoring those other harmful pollutants > in favour of motorists, who are 80% of all road transport? > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns > www.zing.icom43.net > A driving licence is a licence to kill. Umm I don't think it's a problem with cars as such. It's one of mobility and economic migrants. Now it's never been so easy to travel, and instead of living and working in the local area and having house prices that are affordable to the local workforce, I think we find that the more affluent come in looking to save money (as only the affluent can do) and buy up all the cheap houses, taking the best paid jobs, and travel many miles by 4x4. Then the poor mugs you're actually having a go at, get the dregs of what's left and still need a reasonably paid job just to make ends meet and end up becoming quite frankly victims of circumstance. So Im all for scaling back transport actually, all the cars, planes, boats, even trains and buses to a certain extent. |