From: hippo on
Chas wrote:
>
>
> "hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
> message news:i30h21$ljm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> > Warren Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> After 12 years and over 100,000 miles the tail pipe on my old clunker
> >> sprung
> >> a hole. I took it to Midas for a new tail pipe, the rest of the exhaust
> >> pipe
> >> is still in good condition.
> >>
> >> After only 2 months or 1500 miles the new tailpipe sprang a new leak! I
> >> took
> >> the car back and Midas welded up the problem. Now 8 months later the
> >> tailpipe has a new leak. Back I'll go on Monday.
> >>
> >> Any ideas on where the problem is? Faulty material or have Midas used
> >> pipe
> >> too thin for the job or whatever?
> >>
> >> Also, any suggestions on where to go in Sydney to get an exhaust pipe
> >> fitted
> >> that will actually last more than one year?
> >>
> >> Comments much appreciated
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Warren Smith
> >> warren.smith(a)aol.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Personal recommendation for Parramatta Exhaust Centre, 6 Barney Street Nth
> > Parramatta - 9630 5611. Obviously there are others. What area of Sydney?
> > Cheers
> >
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>
> Parramatta Exhaust Centre appears to have closed down recently.

Very sorry to hear that. They were excellent.

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From: Kev on
D Walford wrote:
> On 31/07/2010 12:33 PM, Warren Smith wrote:
>> After 12 years and over 100,000 miles the tail pipe on my old clunker
>> sprung
>> a hole. I took it to Midas for a new tail pipe, the rest of the
>> exhaust pipe
>> is still in good condition.
>>
>> After only 2 months or 1500 miles the new tailpipe sprang a new leak!
>> I took
>> the car back and Midas welded up the problem. Now 8 months later the
>> tailpipe has a new leak. Back I'll go on Monday.
>>
>> Any ideas on where the problem is? Faulty material or have Midas used
>> pipe
>> too thin for the job or whatever?
>>
>> Also, any suggestions on where to go in Sydney to get an exhaust pipe
>> fitted
>> that will actually last more than one year?
>>
>> Comments much appreciated
>
> Not unusual for original equipment exhausts to last a lot longer than
> aftermarket.
> Tailpipes often rust out because they don't get hot enough to get rid of
> the moisture which causes the rust, try fitting either a stainless
> tailpipe or buy a genuine spare part instead of aftermarket.
> People often buy aftermarket parts before checking genuine prices but
> aftermarket isn't always cheaper, for example that last time I checked a
> rear muffler for an 89 Honda Prelude is cheaper from Honda than from
> Midas by about $50.00.
>
>
>
> Daryl
>


Had a full 3 inch system fitted to the cruiser when I fitted the 1HD
cost was a tad over $1000
I'd hate to even ask what Toyota would have charged for a standard system

Caboolture Exhausts manufacture "Black Cat" systems as sold by ARB(at
least here in QLD) and others

He also makes a killing flogging off turbo dump pipes for Nissan
Patrols. Just changing that will give a 12-15hp increase in power.
Says he could only manage a 1-2hp increase over the standard Toyota dump
pipe so he doesn't bother with them


Kev
From: Atheist Chaplain on

"Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4c540848$0$14497$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4c53d41c$0$25360$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>> Warren Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After 12 years and over 100,000 miles the tail pipe on my old
>>>>> clunker sprung
>>>>> a hole. I took it to Midas for a new tail pipe, the rest of the
>>>>> exhaust pipe
>>>>> is still in good condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> After only 2 months or 1500 miles the new tailpipe sprang a new
>>>>> leak! I took
>>>>> the car back and Midas welded up the problem. Now 8 months later the
>>>>> tailpipe has a new leak. Back I'll go on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on where the problem is? Faulty material or have Midas
>>>>> used pipe
>>>>> too thin for the job or whatever?
>>>>
>>>> The reason tailpipes fail first is because they run cooler than the
>>>> rest of the system. Corrosion caused by condensation on the internal
>>>> surfaces is what does the damage. The problem is exacerbated if the
>>>> manufacturing process stretches the metal on the outside of the bends.
>>>> If that's where yours is failing find another supplier who uses a
>>>> different bending technique.
>>>>
>>>> Cheapskate manufacturers also use lighter gauge tubing than they
>>>> should... it needs to be at least 1.5mm for a reasonable service life.
>>>>
>>>> Even shonkier manufacturers don't use the correct material. Proper
>>>> exhaust tubing is aluminised (and is sold by steel merchants as
>>>> exhaust tubing). It costs slightly more than plain mild steel tubing
>>>> and lasts considerably longer.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Caboolture Exhausts give a 10 year corrosion guarantee on their
>>> Aluminised steel pipes
>>> Don't know why anyone would pay for stainless unless they wanted it
>>> for looks on a show car
>>>
>>>
>>> Kev
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well my Corolla came standard with a stainless exhaust system and it
>> wasn't for show. It is also still on the car after 10 years and around
>> 170,000+ k's
>> I expect it to see the car to the wreckers baring any mishaps with
>> obstacles.
>
> As well it should
> but you didn't go and specifically pay for it
> it came standard
>
> I haven't looked under the Prado to see what it's exhaust is made of
> My old Ba's exhaust was 7 years old with 136,000 klms and showed no signs
> of corrosion, it wasn't stainless
>
>
> Kev

I have had a few cars where the first thing I did when a new exhaust system
was required was to take it and get a full stainless system put in, just one
less thing to worry about and they never cost me much extra over a standard
system. Good value for money IMHO.