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From: D Walford on 11 Apr 2010 08:44 On 11/04/2010 9:43 PM, Atheist Chaplain wrote: > "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:4bc19782$0$8828$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> On 11/04/2010 2:30 PM, Dyna Soar wrote: >>> D Walford wrote: >>>> On 11/04/2010 11:39 AM, Clocky wrote: >>> >>>>> The videos showing the misconduct of American soldiers can be found >>>>> using Google. >>> >>>> The only difference between current wars and previous wars is the >>>> amount of video taken by almost everyone involved. >>>> If I was a Commander over there the first thing I would do would be to >>>> make it a very serious offence for any of my men to be caught owning >>>> or using any sort of camera, posting a video on the net would be >>>> treason with very serious punishment. >>> >>> Are you aware that the video we are discussing is an official video >>> shot by >>> the chopper's on board camera, not some private movie camera? Your >>> comments >>> indicate not. And this video has been "released" almost three years >>> after >>> the event, the chances it was released by an actual participant in >>> the event >>> is so remote, I suggest it's nil. >> >> I was aware of that but the fact that a video exists at all is the >> difference between current and previous conflicts. > > you know they had gun cameras way back in WW2 don't you, as well as > cameras in the bomb sights................. > and they have been used ever since. > True but they were still camera's not high detail video and the chances of them being released to embarrass the country that took them would be very remote and if it did happen the person who did so would more than likely end up being executed for treason which is very different to what happens now. Daryl
From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on 11 Apr 2010 08:58 D Walford wrote: > On 11/04/2010 9:43 PM, Atheist Chaplain wrote: >> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4bc19782$0$8828$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> On 11/04/2010 2:30 PM, Dyna Soar wrote: >>>> D Walford wrote: >>>>> On 11/04/2010 11:39 AM, Clocky wrote: >>>> >>>>>> The videos showing the misconduct of American soldiers can be found >>>>>> using Google. >>>> >>>>> The only difference between current wars and previous wars is the >>>>> amount of video taken by almost everyone involved. >>>>> If I was a Commander over there the first thing I would do would be to >>>>> make it a very serious offence for any of my men to be caught owning >>>>> or using any sort of camera, posting a video on the net would be >>>>> treason with very serious punishment. >>>> >>>> Are you aware that the video we are discussing is an official video >>>> shot by >>>> the chopper's on board camera, not some private movie camera? Your >>>> comments >>>> indicate not. And this video has been "released" almost three years >>>> after >>>> the event, the chances it was released by an actual participant in >>>> the event >>>> is so remote, I suggest it's nil. >>> >>> I was aware of that but the fact that a video exists at all is the >>> difference between current and previous conflicts. >> >> you know they had gun cameras way back in WW2 don't you, as well as >> cameras in the bomb sights................. >> and they have been used ever since. >> > True but they were still camera's not high detail video and the chances > of them being released to embarrass the country that took them would be > very remote and if it did happen the person who did so would more than > likely end up being executed for treason which is very different to what > happens now. > > > > Daryl Super 8 std Dazza , better than you realise in startling clear monochrome
From: Noddy on 11 Apr 2010 10:11 "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message news:82e1acFusfU1(a)mid.individual.net... > The English? Not too many. Not many, no, but they were involved. > http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_England's_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_War > > "During the period of US involvement, Britain provided some support. They > built the American Air bases in Thailand. Special Forces were also > involved on active service. The most highly decorated "American" in the > Vietnam War was British. Units were sent from Britain to Fort Dix. At Fort > Dix they "resigned from the British Army and re-enlisted in the US Army". > After completing their tour in Vietnam, the returning "GI's" were > discharged from US Forces and re-enlisted in the British Army on their > return to the UK. This allowed Harold Wilson, (the British Prime > Minister), to stand up in Parliament and announce "No British Troops are > in Vietnam". Twenty two British Servicemen were killed in action in > Vietnam. Britain did not help the Americans as such because the British > public were against it, this was undoubtedly the worst Anglo-American > friendship that any British Prime minister and American President has ever > had. " Uh-huh. Whoever wrote that Wiki article might want to look up the relationship between Anthony Eden and Dwight Eisenhower during the Suez problem in 1956. It makes the relationship between Harold Wilson and Lyndon Johnson look like best buddies :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Clocky on 11 Apr 2010 10:50 D Walford wrote: > On 11/04/2010 9:43 PM, Atheist Chaplain wrote: >> "D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message >> news:4bc19782$0$8828$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> On 11/04/2010 2:30 PM, Dyna Soar wrote: >>>> D Walford wrote: >>>>> On 11/04/2010 11:39 AM, Clocky wrote: >>>> >>>>>> The videos showing the misconduct of American soldiers can be >>>>>> found using Google. >>>> >>>>> The only difference between current wars and previous wars is the >>>>> amount of video taken by almost everyone involved. >>>>> If I was a Commander over there the first thing I would do would >>>>> be to make it a very serious offence for any of my men to be >>>>> caught owning or using any sort of camera, posting a video on the >>>>> net would be treason with very serious punishment. >>>> >>>> Are you aware that the video we are discussing is an official video >>>> shot by >>>> the chopper's on board camera, not some private movie camera? Your >>>> comments >>>> indicate not. And this video has been "released" almost three years >>>> after >>>> the event, the chances it was released by an actual participant in >>>> the event >>>> is so remote, I suggest it's nil. >>> >>> I was aware of that but the fact that a video exists at all is the >>> difference between current and previous conflicts. >> >> you know they had gun cameras way back in WW2 don't you, as well as >> cameras in the bomb sights................. >> and they have been used ever since. >> > True but they were still camera's not high detail video and the > chances of them being released to embarrass the country that took > them would be very remote and if it did happen the person who did so > would more than likely end up being executed for treason which is > very different to what happens now. > The media is completely and utterly controlled by the propaganda machine and what leaks out is just the tip of the iceberg. That has always been true, but these days of media control and manipulation what you and I see is often nothing like what is actually happening.
From: Clocky on 11 Apr 2010 11:20
Jason James wrote: > "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message > news:4bc18dec$0$27842$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >> The US has pretty blunt teeth these days, a a few have fallen out... >> I'm sure that fact hasn't been lost of a few up and comers that >> could be the next superpower... > > I cant imagine where you got the justification for that statement. > The US has a population of 300 odd million? Sheer populatrion size = > military output. They have the cutting edge of weapons not only of > precise targetting, but mass destruction. They dont parade their > future-generation weapons every May-day, like the Russians,..they do > not need to. But on a comparitive front, the Russians have > multi-nuclear warheads residing in Typhoon class subs,..just like the > yanks. Itis a page of mutually assured destruction that neither side > wants to open. Forget the Russians... |