From: Kev on
Dyna Soar wrote:
> PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>
>> When you come to Australia [or any other country] you live by OUR
>> [there] rules....
>
> We have rules that state what head covering one may, or may not wear?


Yes only Catholic women are allowed to wear a religious head covering
and of course any other head covering NOT for islamic religious purpose
is also allowed....... oh, wait, sorry I thought I was in Alabama there
for a minute



Kev
From: Jason James on

"Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
news:82aohhFselU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Jason James wrote:
>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote ...
>>> PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>>>> "Clocky" <notg...(a)happen.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> You mean like how the yanks kill unarmed civilians andjournalists?
>
>>>> Show us the video links for these arab/muslin scum beheading
>>>> innocent civillians and also gassing there OWN population...
>
>>> Yet you justify the same when the Yanks do it. The Yanks are also
>>> much more proficient at it, they have been killing innocent people
>>> for many decades using all sorts of weapons of mass destruction.
>
>> The US does not deliberately kill non-terrorists.
>
> Bullshit!! As an example, they did in this incident and the Seppo
> murderers relished the killings even to the extent of laughing when a Yank
> tank ran over a civilian body.

What are you talking about? I have seen the clip, and its a couple of
characters so far down the pecking order, what they say or laugh at is
irrelevant. It's *official* policy we are talking about,..not some fuckwits
jibberings. How you can project this incident, as somehow representative of
US policy is beyond me.

Jason


From: Jason James on

"Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
news:82av8gF1vvU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Jason James wrote:
>> "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
>> news:82aohhFselU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> Jason James wrote:
>>>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote ...
>>>>> PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>>>>>> "Clocky" <notg...(a)happen.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> You mean like how the yanks kill unarmed civilians
>>>>>>> andjournalists?
>
>>>>>> Show us the video links for these arab/muslin scum beheading
>>>>>> innocent civillians and also gassing there OWN population...
>
>>>>> Yet you justify the same when the Yanks do it. The Yanks are also
>>>>> much more proficient at it, they have been killing innocent people
>>>>> for many decades using all sorts of weapons of mass destruction.
>
>>>> The US does not deliberately kill non-terrorists.
>
>>> Bullshit!! As an example, they did in this incident and the Seppo
>>> murderers relished the killings even to the extent of laughing when
>>> a Yank tank ran over a civilian body.
>
>> What are you talking about? I have seen the clip, and its a couple of
>> characters so far down the pecking order,
>
> Not so far down that they were not part of a team responsible for the
> murders of civilians displaying no aggression. The lens were slung and
> no attempt was being made to "unsling".
>
>> what they say or laugh at is
>> irrelevant. It's *official* policy we are talking about,..not some
>> fuckwits jibberings. How you can project this incident, as somehow
>> representative of US policy is beyond me.
>
> Did I say it was *official* policy?

Not in so many words,...but official US policy is what counts.


But it is US troops *deliberately*
> murdering innocent civilians. You seem to accept that as OK, I don't.

Dont dig down and try and throw that onto me. I have told you what you were
looking at,...do try and give it some *fficial*weight,..if you can.

> The fact is that for almost three years, the Seppo military have
> consistently denied the truth about this event with lies and deceit.

You keep beating this horse....as you have nothinmg else pointing to
anything which is representative of US policy. Of course any sane person
deplores those photographs,..but it's a misnomer to paint US policy with
that aberration,..and what's more I suspect you know this. So what is your
real agenda?

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/wikileaks-exposes-video-o_n_525569.html
> The American military said in a statement late Thursday that 11 people had
> been killed: nine insurgents and two civilians. According to the
> statement, American troops were conducting a raid when they were hit by
> small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The American troops called
> in reinforcements and attack helicopters. In the ensuing fight, the
> statement said, the two Reuters employees and nine insurgents were killed.
> "There is no question that coalition forces were clearly engaged in combat
> operations against a hostile force," said Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl, a
> spokesman for the multinational forces in Baghdad. The video shows
> otherwise.
>
> The clip, showing no hostile action at all by those on the ground was only
> made available by a whistle blower.

No argument. But it's an aberration, not US policy.

Jason


From: Clocky on
Jason James wrote:
> "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
> news:82av8gF1vvU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Jason James wrote:
>>> "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
>>> news:82aohhFselU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>> Jason James wrote:
>>>>> "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote ...
>>>>>> PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>>>>>>> "Clocky" <notg...(a)happen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> You mean like how the yanks kill unarmed civilians
>>>>>>>> andjournalists?
>>
>>>>>>> Show us the video links for these arab/muslin scum beheading
>>>>>>> innocent civillians and also gassing there OWN population...
>>
>>>>>> Yet you justify the same when the Yanks do it. The Yanks are also
>>>>>> much more proficient at it, they have been killing innocent
>>>>>> people for many decades using all sorts of weapons of mass
>>>>>> destruction.
>>
>>>>> The US does not deliberately kill non-terrorists.
>>
>>>> Bullshit!! As an example, they did in this incident and the Seppo
>>>> murderers relished the killings even to the extent of laughing when
>>>> a Yank tank ran over a civilian body.
>>
>>> What are you talking about? I have seen the clip, and its a couple
>>> of characters so far down the pecking order,
>>
>> Not so far down that they were not part of a team responsible for the
>> murders of civilians displaying no aggression. The lens were slung
>> and no attempt was being made to "unsling".
>>
>>> what they say or laugh at is
>>> irrelevant. It's *official* policy we are talking about,..not some
>>> fuckwits jibberings. How you can project this incident, as somehow
>>> representative of US policy is beyond me.
>>
>> Did I say it was *official* policy?
>
> Not in so many words,...but official US policy is what counts.
>
>
> But it is US troops *deliberately*
>> murdering innocent civilians. You seem to accept that as OK, I
>> don't.
>
> Dont dig down and try and throw that onto me. I have told you what
> you were looking at,...do try and give it some *fficial*weight,..if
> you can.
>> The fact is that for almost three years, the Seppo military have
>> consistently denied the truth about this event with lies and deceit.
>
> You keep beating this horse....as you have nothinmg else pointing to
> anything which is representative of US policy. Of course any sane
> person deplores those photographs,..but it's a misnomer to paint US
> policy with that aberration,..and what's more I suspect you know
> this. So what is your real agenda?
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/wikileaks-exposes-video-o_n_525569.html
>> The American military said in a statement late Thursday that 11
>> people had been killed: nine insurgents and two civilians. According
>> to the statement, American troops were conducting a raid when they
>> were hit by small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The
>> American troops called in reinforcements and attack helicopters. In
>> the ensuing fight, the statement said, the two Reuters employees and
>> nine insurgents were killed. "There is no question that coalition
>> forces were clearly engaged in combat operations against a hostile
>> force," said Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl, a spokesman for the
>> multinational forces in Baghdad. The video shows otherwise.
>>
>> The clip, showing no hostile action at all by those on the ground
>> was only made available by a whistle blower.
>
> No argument. But it's an aberration, not US policy.
>

Bullshit. There are plenty of clips showing atrocities against civilians and
they all get covered up or otherwise swept under the carpet because they
know that nobody cares if a "sandnigger" is an innocent civilian or an enemy
combatant.

When the government is paying mercenaries to kill whoever they like without
fear of retribution, it's government policy.


From: D Walford on
On 10/04/2010 7:38 PM, Dyna Soar wrote:
> Jason James wrote:
>> "Dyna Soar"<dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message
>> news:82aohhFselU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> Jason James wrote:
>>>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote ...
>>>>> PaulpULVITZKA wrote:
>>>>>> "Clocky"<notg...(a)happen.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> You mean like how the yanks kill unarmed civilians
>>>>>>> andjournalists?
>
>>>>>> Show us the video links for these arab/muslin scum beheading
>>>>>> innocent civillians and also gassing there OWN population...
>
>>>>> Yet you justify the same when the Yanks do it. The Yanks are also
>>>>> much more proficient at it, they have been killing innocent people
>>>>> for many decades using all sorts of weapons of mass destruction.
>
>>>> The US does not deliberately kill non-terrorists.
>
>>> Bullshit!! As an example, they did in this incident and the Seppo
>>> murderers relished the killings even to the extent of laughing when
>>> a Yank tank ran over a civilian body.
>
>> What are you talking about? I have seen the clip, and its a couple of
>> characters so far down the pecking order,
>
> Not so far down that they were not part of a team responsible for the
> murders of civilians displaying no aggression. The lens were slung and no
> attempt was being made to "unsling".
>
>> what they say or laugh at is
>> irrelevant. It's *official* policy we are talking about,..not some
>> fuckwits jibberings. How you can project this incident, as somehow
>> representative of US policy is beyond me.
>
> Did I say it was *official* policy? But it is US troops *deliberately*
> murdering innocent civilians. You seem to accept that as OK, I don't.

In a war is anyone an innocent civilian?
The reason the US or anyone these days cannot win a war is that they are
too concerned about public opinion to actually get on with the job of
defeating the enemy.
If they really wanted to win the war they could in a very short time but
they would struggle to cope with the outcry over the collateral damage.
They killed 10's of thousands of Japanese civilians with nukes but no
one outside of Japan complained all that much and they won the war and
put a stop to the killing and destruction so at the time it was
considered by most people to be a good thing.


Daryl