My drive this morning, nearly went pear shaped
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on 18 Apr 2010 06:48 On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:21:21 +0100, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > can you >>see the problem? there is only one problem. A car on a motorway, indicating left or not indicating, may suddenly move right into the next lane, I see no drivers taking precautions over that. Do you have any suggestions that do not involve you imagining the car was at two places at the same time or that two junctions were in the same place, this isn't Dr Who you know? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: MrBitsy on 18 Apr 2010 08:36 On 18/04/2010 11:18, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:31:58 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >> No, I did not make them up - you clearly described them. I pointed out >> how those clues could help a driver anticipate the possible collision >> (that you almost had). If the space wasn't limited, how come you put >> yourself into the exact same spot the other car moved into? >> > where do you place yourself when passing on as motorway? Space was not > limited, yet another example of you twisting the facts. > I am using your description of the situation you faced, and the driving plan you used. Your description included.. A turn off A 'split' ahead A very slow vehicle Lorries in lane 2 A gap in the lorries Option to use half of lane 3 Not wanted to be From that description, it is easy to anticipate a possible move right by the slow vehicle ahead. What has your original post got to do with your new goal posting suggesting of 'passing on a motorway', where I assume you are describing an area of motorway with no hazards? > >> Your anticipation was poor - learn from it. >> > No, you are being ridiculous and illogical. > No, I am attempting to show you how you could have used the clues to better anticipate the possible actions of the driver ahead. -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 18 Apr 2010 08:42 On 18/04/2010 11:21, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:43:49 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >>> c) hes going slowly. >>> >>> >> 'C' suggests he may not turn off. 'C' suggests he may be unsure about >> turning off. Given 'C', I would not pass him at the Junction - can you >> see the problem? >> > its a fantasy in your mind that a car slowing to turn off and > indicting tells a following driving the car is about to move right. > You are still not getting this at all. A car slowing and indicating left is not telling the following driver he is about to turn right. On a clear road with few other hazards, it would be fine to pass this vehicle as you would have plenty of space to move into if he did go right. However, given your description of the scene, your options were reduced and the likelihood of him going right were increased (which he did). -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 18 Apr 2010 08:45 On 18/04/2010 11:22, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:46:47 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >> I am miffed why you keep asserting that a driver indicating left will go >> left. >> > I'm not. > So there is a possibility of a driver indicating left in fact going right? -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 18 Apr 2010 13:25
On 18/04/2010 11:48, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:21:21 +0100, ChelseaTractorMan > <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > >> can you >> >>> see the problem? >>> > there is only one problem. A car on a motorway, indicating left or not > indicating, may suddenly move right into the next lane, I see no > drivers taking precautions over that. Do you have any suggestions that > do not involve you imagining the car was at two places at the same > time or that two junctions were in the same place, this isn't Dr Who > you know? > It was not an ordinary car, on a section of motorway with no hazards or other traffic. Stop changing the goalposts and concentrate on the situation you were in. As the number of hazards increase and available space decrease, a good driver will play 'what if' scenarios with what his eyes show him ahead. With the clues you had, you could have made sure you were nowhere near a car going unusually slow approaching various routes. I make an informed choice on where to place my car given the observational clues my eyes see - you failed to anticipate based on the clues you were given. -- MrBitsy |