My un-favourite junction
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on 2 May 2010 05:10 On Sat, 01 May 2010 19:32:38 +0100, MrBitsy <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote: >Yes, I do assume that. I always have an escape route planned in my mind >when passing a vehicle. I had an escape route and used it, this is the problem, you think everybody else is stupid. What escape route would you plan for this threads situation instead of banging on about a thread I gave up on ages ago rather than die of boredom. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 2 May 2010 05:16 On Sun, 02 May 2010 10:10:28 +0100, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >What escape route would you plan for this >threads situation (thats why I don't like the junction, you are in a situation where you have few if any options in traffic, the only thing to do is maximise the gap to the car in front - which isnt very effective if you need to be at 55-60 to merge and the car in front decides to slow to 30 - or the better option, join at the next junction which has a proper slip). What's your escape route when overtaking in L3 on a motorway? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 2 May 2010 05:23 On Sun, 02 May 2010 10:06:49 +0100, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>by your own estimation you gave it a 5% chanc > >no I did not. a) 95% was just a turn of phrase b) it related to the decision making process, not the number of cars that turn right when indicating left. 95% of clues, not 95% of cars, I already explained this once. c) No situation is 100% predictable, thats why I used 95%, +/-5% being the usual rule of thumb assumed variable when the degree of unceretainty has not been measurable. You think its 50%, I think it's one in many thousands, unlike cars that go straight on when indicating left or right, which is common, possibly one in a 1000 or whatever. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: MrBitsy on 2 May 2010 13:31 On 02/05/2010 10:08, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 01 May 2010 19:33:50 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >> Not happened to you, but plenty of others. It is this attitude that >> leads people into accidents that are easily avoided. >> > when are you going to suggest what I was doing wrong according to you > at the other junction? <sigh>, you didn't do anything 'wrong'. You did however miss clear clues what may be about to happen. > I take it you only overtake on motorways with a > clear lane between you and the other car incase the drivers suddenly > pulls out? > Driving can be dangerous. Acts of god are often not be foreseen. Your scenario had many hazards, including a car driving unusually slowly approaching a junction and 'split' - a clear sign of indecision. -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 2 May 2010 13:39
On 02/05/2010 10:10, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Sat, 01 May 2010 19:32:38 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >> Yes, I do assume that. I always have an escape route planned in my mind >> when passing a vehicle. >> > I had an escape route and used it, this is the problem, you think > everybody else is stupid. No, I don't think everybody is stupid. You avoided the accident, but my remarks had nothing to do with that. My point is the lack of anticipation you showed by putting yourself alongside the other vehicle AT THE POINT IT MAY GO RIGHT. The other driver was at fault and you did nothing wrong, but your anticipation was lacking. > What escape route would you plan for this > threads situation instead of banging on about a thread I gave up on > ages ago rather than die of boredom. > As I said, from your description of the incident, my mind was thinking this guy is going right, when I was half way through reading it. I personally would not have passed the other vehicle until it had either turned onto the junction, or was passed it (thus completing the possible move to the right). If you are bored, stop replying to the ruddy messages! -- MrBitsy |