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From: MrBitsy on 29 Apr 2010 20:46 On 29/04/2010 17:59, Brimstone wrote: > "MrBitsy" <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote in message > news:mqqdnY882paFKkTWnZ2dnUVZ8hydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> On 29/04/2010 15:16, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > >>> There you go again, I reported how bad road design leads to errors in >>> peoples driving, you interpret that as I'm getting it wrong in *my* >>> driving. As I was not involved in any incident, how is that so? >>> >>> >> You posted about a junction that is not designed very well. You went >> on to say how other drivers were making it difficult for you to >> negotiate the junction. Again, from your description, it appears to >> me there are things you can do to mitigate the poor driving of others. > > If he is having to change his approach to accommodate the poor driving > of other drivers then they are indeed making life difficult for him. > Every driver, on every drive, should be adjusting their driving to allow for mistakes of others. If not, the driver will post on here how everyone else on the road is making it difficult for them. What they are not getting, is that a change of their own attitude will see most of these problems melt away. -- MrBitsy
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 30 Apr 2010 04:29 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:29:10 +0100, MrBitsy <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote: >You did say how your problems are down to the other drivers which isn't >correct. I said the problem was caused by bad junction design, bad to the point of dangerous. The "other drivers" on a number of occasions made mistakes, yes. But I am not having "problems" I am observing how things go wrong when a junction is sub standard. What would you do differently? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 30 Apr 2010 04:33 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:43:02 +0100, MrBitsy <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote: >You posted about a junction that is not designed very well. You went on >to say how other drivers were making it difficult for you to negotiate >the junction. Again, from your description, it appears to me there are >things you can do to mitigate the poor driving of others. such as? >Right, so in your estimation there was a 5% chance the car would go >right - what clues were the 5% the car would go right? 95% was a figure of speech >All I am saying is, you didn't appear to plan for that 5%, leading to >the near miss you had. In my mind however, there was a 50/50 chance of >that driver going right, mainly due to the slow speed approaching a >junction, which shows indecision. 50/50! Thats interesting, do any others think a car at a junction going slowly and indicating left is 50/50 going to go right? > What I am saying is, you appear to be blaming others >100% for the problems you experienced in the two threads. in the second thread (this one) I am blaming road design so thats a non starter. >Yes, but my point is the driver should not drop their guard 100% because >a barrier is there, did I suggest you should? >or because a driver is indicating or a junction is >poorly designed. Yes, someone else is to blame, but there are things an >individual can do to lessen the risks. in the case of the junction, tell me what? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 30 Apr 2010 04:35 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:46:08 +0100, MrBitsy <ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> wrote: >Every driver, on every drive, should be adjusting their driving to allow >for mistakes of others. I will tell you why you get a lot of flack, you are assuming everybody else doesn't know that, when we in fact we do. We wouldn't be in this group if we didn't. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: MrBitsy on 30 Apr 2010 05:45
On 30/04/2010 09:35, ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:46:08 +0100, MrBitsy<ray.keattch(a)infinity.com> > wrote: > > >> Every driver, on every drive, should be adjusting their driving to allow >> for mistakes of others. >> > I will tell you why you get a lot of flack, you are assuming everybody > else doesn't know that, when we in fact we do. We wouldn't be in this > group if we didn't. > Of course know this, but your posts suggests your anticipation skills are below par. You say the car that indicated left and was driving unusually slowly had a 5% chance of going right, yet you placed your vehicle right where it would go if it did go right (which it did). From your description of the event, I would have put it more like 50/50 this car would go right given the clues and conditions you described. Rather than getting defensive all the time, how about understanding how you made the mistake of another driver, a lot worse than it needed to be? -- MrBitsy |