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From: Don Stauffer on 31 Mar 2010 09:52 Toyota wrote: > NASA will help probe Toyota accelerators > Carmaker also convenes safety panel, vows new commitment to customers > > WASHINGTON - Auto safety regulators said on Tuesday they will tap the > expertise of the country's top space and aeronautics experts to > analyze Toyota Motor Corp's electronic throttles to see if they are > behind the reports of unintended acceleration that have hounded the > automaker. > An important word here is aeronautics. The press seems to have neglected the fact that NASA stands for the National AERONAUTICS and Space Administration. Jet engines have always had very complex throttle controls, and many years ago went to a "throttle by wire". So it makes sense to tap into the aeronautical knowledge base. It is not space science, it is aviation science :-)
From: Scott Dorsey on 31 Mar 2010 10:33 Don Stauffer <stauffer(a)usfamily.net> wrote: >Toyota wrote: >> NASA will help probe Toyota accelerators >> Carmaker also convenes safety panel, vows new commitment to customers >> >> WASHINGTON - Auto safety regulators said on Tuesday they will tap the >> expertise of the country's top space and aeronautics experts to >> analyze Toyota Motor Corp's electronic throttles to see if they are >> behind the reports of unintended acceleration that have hounded the >> automaker. > >An important word here is aeronautics. The press seems to have >neglected the fact that NASA stands for the National AERONAUTICS and >Space Administration. > >Jet engines have always had very complex throttle controls, and many >years ago went to a "throttle by wire". So it makes sense to tap into >the aeronautical knowledge base. It is not space science, it is aviation >science :-) NASA also has been putting serious work into software verification for the past 40 years or so also. An awful lot of the base work that went into the concepts behind software verification came out of NASA work on embedded control code. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: cuhulin on 31 Mar 2010 10:52 Whatever NASA finds, the Chinese won't have to hack it.Fed govt will give it or sell it to the Chinese. http://www.softwar.net cuhulin
From: chuckcar on 31 Mar 2010 13:00 Toyota <toyotabrakerecall(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:898f2f1d-8ef9-4f35-b09f-86c8dc0ec9ef(a)r1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com: > NASA will help probe Toyota accelerators > Carmaker also convenes safety panel, vows new commitment to customers > > WASHINGTON - Auto safety regulators said on Tuesday they will tap the > expertise of the country's top space and aeronautics experts to > analyze Toyota Motor Corp's electronic throttles to see if they are > behind the reports of unintended acceleration that have hounded the > automaker. > > The news that NASA scientists will join the probe came as Toyota, > reeling from a recall crisis sparked by the acceleration reports, > launched a task force aimed at regaining consumer trust and pledged to > give its regional operations more clout to speed up decisions on > quality issues. > > "We are determined to get to the bottom of unintended acceleration," > U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said in an interview with > Reuters. Even if it doesn't exist, we'll find it. LOL. This is only going to look worse and worse for the bureaucrats IMHO. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: C. E. White on 1 Apr 2010 14:24
"jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:IM6dnQqSGfoQyC7WnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > translation: nasa will dissect toyota's hardware and software, and > diligently "make their findings available" for frod and g.m. to copy > free of charge. doubtless the chinese will hack nasa and get their > hands on it too. I am not sure why GM would want Toyota's trottle control hardware and software since GM has the lowest incidence of unintneded acceleration of any major auto manufacturer, but if they did, Denso (Toyota's captive parts operation) is ready to sell it to them (see http://www.globaldensoproducts.com/em/gem/etcs/index.html ). Why steal what you can buy for less than you can build it? I am sure the Chinese don't need to steal the infomration from NASA.They can steal it form the plants Denso set up in China with less effort. Ed |