From: dotmoc on
Hello to all.
I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding
at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine
from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've
received another letter asking for those details again plus this
statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising
this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for
information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am
actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the
first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road
Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide
information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see
why I am being asked for more information.
I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a
report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of
further proceedings against yourself."
How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against
it?

Many thanks for your help!

From: cupra on
dotmoc(a)gmail.com wrote:
> Hello to all.
> I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding
> at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine
> from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've
> received another letter asking for those details again plus this
> statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising
> this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for
> information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am
> actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the
> first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road
> Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide
> information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see
> why I am being asked for more information.
> I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a
> report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of
> further proceedings against yourself."
> How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against
> it?
>
> Many thanks for your help!

You may be better off asking this on uk.legal.moderated....


From: SteveH on
<dotmoc(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello to all.
> I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding
> at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine
> from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've
> received another letter asking for those details again plus this
> statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising
> this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for
> information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am
> actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the
> first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road
> Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide
> information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see
> why I am being asked for more information.
> I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a
> report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of
> further proceedings against yourself."
> How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against
> it?
>
> Many thanks for your help!

You may find that allowing an uninsured / unlicensed driver to drive
your car gives you a far worse penalty than taking the hit for the
speeding.....

If you *do* get points for an unlicened / uninsured driver, then expect
to pay vastly inflated insurance premiums for the next 5 years.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Clive George on
<dotmoc(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176992339.837480.181790(a)y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> I don't see why I am being asked for more information.

You're being asked for the insurance details of this canadian mate of yours
because lots of people have been pretending that they've got foreign mates
who have conveniently left the country who were doing the driving when they
got caught by a camera.

clive

From: Mike on
On 19 Apr, 15:51, s...(a)italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
> <dot...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello to all.
> > I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding
> > at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine
> > from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've
> > received another letter asking for those details again plus this
> > statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising
> > this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for
> > information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am
> > actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the
> > first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road
> > Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide
> > information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see
> > why I am being asked for more information.
> > I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a
> > report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of
> > further proceedings against yourself."
> > How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against
> > it?
>
> > Many thanks for your help!
>
> You may find that allowing an uninsured / unlicensed driver to drive
> your car gives you a far worse penalty than taking the hit for the
> speeding.....
>
> If you *do* get points for an unlicened / uninsured driver, then expect
> to pay vastly inflated insurance premiums for the next 5 years.
> --
> SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'www.italiancar.co.uk- Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
> Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
> BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Steve,

I'm curious about this, isn't it the responsibility of the driver to
have insurance not the car owner. So for example, if I lent you my
car do I have to make sure you are insured - surely it's up to you?

Mike