From: dotmoc on 19 Apr 2007 10:18 Hello to all. I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've received another letter asking for those details again plus this statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see why I am being asked for more information. I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of further proceedings against yourself." How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against it? Many thanks for your help!
From: cupra on 19 Apr 2007 10:44 dotmoc(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hello to all. > I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding > at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine > from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've > received another letter asking for those details again plus this > statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising > this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for > information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am > actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the > first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road > Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide > information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see > why I am being asked for more information. > I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a > report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of > further proceedings against yourself." > How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against > it? > > Many thanks for your help! You may be better off asking this on uk.legal.moderated....
From: SteveH on 19 Apr 2007 10:51 <dotmoc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello to all. > I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding > at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine > from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've > received another letter asking for those details again plus this > statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising > this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for > information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am > actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the > first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road > Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide > information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see > why I am being asked for more information. > I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a > report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of > further proceedings against yourself." > How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against > it? > > Many thanks for your help! You may find that allowing an uninsured / unlicensed driver to drive your car gives you a far worse penalty than taking the hit for the speeding..... If you *do* get points for an unlicened / uninsured driver, then expect to pay vastly inflated insurance premiums for the next 5 years. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Clive George on 19 Apr 2007 10:56 <dotmoc(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1176992339.837480.181790(a)y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > I don't see why I am being asked for more information. You're being asked for the insurance details of this canadian mate of yours because lots of people have been pretending that they've got foreign mates who have conveniently left the country who were doing the driving when they got caught by a camera. clive
From: Mike on 19 Apr 2007 11:18
On 19 Apr, 15:51, s...(a)italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote: > <dot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello to all. > > I have a situation where I got a NIP letter telling me a was speeding > > at some place. I know that the driver at the time was a friend of mine > > from Canada. I returned the letter providing his details, and now i've > > received another letter asking for those details again plus this > > statement: "a copy of the relevant Insurance certificate, authorising > > this person to drive the vehicle, should also be attached for > > information and verification." Can someone clarify whether I am > > actually legally required to do this, as this wasn't mentioned in the > > first letter and I also do not see it in the relevant Act (Road > > Traffic Act 1988 section 172). All that is required is that I provide > > information in order to identify the driver. I did that. I don't see > > why I am being asked for more information. > > I am told that if I do not do this within 7 days it "will result in a > > report being submitted to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of > > further proceedings against yourself." > > How serious is this statement? Do I have any legal arguments against > > it? > > > Many thanks for your help! > > You may find that allowing an uninsured / unlicensed driver to drive > your car gives you a far worse penalty than taking the hit for the > speeding..... > > If you *do* get points for an unlicened / uninsured driver, then expect > to pay vastly inflated insurance premiums for the next 5 years. > -- > SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'www.italiancar.co.uk- Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark > Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL > BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Steve, I'm curious about this, isn't it the responsibility of the driver to have insurance not the car owner. So for example, if I lent you my car do I have to make sure you are insured - surely it's up to you? Mike |