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New hires in UAW no longer tops in manufacturing
By DEE-ANN DURBIN and TOM KRISHER (AP) – 6 days ago

DETROIT — Every day at a General Motors plant near Lansing, Mich.,
workers drive hundreds of Buick Enclaves — many with leather seats for
seven and on-board video systems — off the assembly line.

Driving one home would be tough for the plant's newest workers, whose
annual pay is less than the $35,000 it costs to buy even the cheapest
Enclave. Newly hired members of the United Auto Workers at GM, Ford
and Chrysler earn about $14 per hour, half what veterans make under
their current contract.

It's a far cry from the days when the union autoworker had one of the
sweetest deals in American labor. And within the Enclave plant near
Lansing, the disparity creates mixed emotions, including some
resentment, among the 130 recent hires.

"It's difficult to look across the line at someone getting paid more
for doing the same job you're doing," said Steve Barnas, the plant's
union bargaining chairman.

For decades, the UAW tugged wages upward. In 1960, a UAW member made
16 percent more than the average American manufacturing worker. By
2006, the figure was 74 percent. Today, new hires in the UAW make
about 20 percent less than the average.

(snip)
From: Tom Yost on
lil abner <@daisy.mae> wrote in news:246Vn.127$0A5.31(a)newsfe22.iad:
>
> Do you know what 14 an hour is? Try buying a new home on that or
> providing for a family.
> 14.00 an hour is no more than 1.50 an hour in 1970 or less. You do the
> math on inflation/devaluation.
>

Yea but it's like $43,429.98 an hour in 3098.


From: Fred Gringioni on

"lil abner" <@daisy.mae> wrote in message
news:246Vn.127$0A5.31(a)newsfe22.iad...

: Do you know what 14 an hour is? Try buying a new home on that or
: providing for a family.
: 14.00 an hour is no more than 1.50 an hour in 1970 or less. You do the
: math on inflation/devaluation.
: It is just wage slavery the reason the globalist worship Mexico and
Chjina.




An unskilled worker doesn't deserve any more than that. Let the market
decide.

From: Brent on
On 2010-06-25, lil abner <> wrote:

> Do you know what 14 an hour is? Try buying a new home on that or
> providing for a family.
> 14.00 an hour is no more than 1.50 an hour in 1970 or less. You do the
> math on inflation/devaluation.
> It is just wage slavery the reason the globalist worship Mexico and Chjina.

It's 30 grand a year before taxes. Even with the inflation thanks to the
bankers and the privately owned federal reserve it's still damn good
money for an 18 year old with no job experience.

Your real gripe should be with the union and the union scale that
prevents someone who say has been doing essentially the same sort of
work building some other product who gets laid off and now has gotten a
job in automotive. He now gets to start at $14. The union scale that
prevents people who are productive from earning more money. It's just a
matter of putting in the years.

Also the idea that someone who assembles a 35k car or 70k car or a 150k
car deserves a salary to buy it is absurd. The concept of buying the car
built came from the model T ford, a basic car, not some luxury car or
even mid level car, but the basic car.

get a load of this part of TFA:
"Bobbi Marsh, 32, was hired at a GM plant in Lordstown, Ohio, two years
ago, making $14 per hour. With raises she now makes $16, but that's
still less than half the wage of her father, a machinist at the
Lordstown plant.

Her father's job helped pay for her college and family vacations. She is
afraid she will not be able to provide the same for her 10-year-old
son."

For crying out loud... she has two years experience at god knows what
and she deserves the same as skilled machinist with 30+ years
experience? Why? Because she has a teaching degree she isn't using?


From: Jim Yanik on
lil abner <@daisy.mae> wrote in news:246Vn.127$0A5.31(a)newsfe22.iad:

> Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers wrote:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jF7BKtnASmpRaPV00FqD
>> 2EjFij3wD9GDU8DO4
>>
>> New hires in UAW no longer tops in manufacturing
>> By DEE-ANN DURBIN and TOM KRISHER (AP) ? 6 days ago
>>
>> DETROIT ? Every day at a General Motors plant near Lansing, Mich.,
>> workers drive hundreds of Buick Enclaves ? many with leather seats
>> for seven and on-board video systems ? off the assembly line.
>>
>> Driving one home would be tough for the plant's newest workers, whose
>> annual pay is less than the $35,000 it costs to buy even the cheapest
>> Enclave. Newly hired members of the United Auto Workers at GM, Ford
>> and Chrysler earn about $14 per hour, half what veterans make under
>> their current contract.
>>
>> It's a far cry from the days when the union autoworker had one of the
>> sweetest deals in American labor. And within the Enclave plant near
>> Lansing, the disparity creates mixed emotions, including some
>> resentment, among the 130 recent hires.
>>
>> "It's difficult to look across the line at someone getting paid more
>> for doing the same job you're doing," said Steve Barnas, the plant's
>> union bargaining chairman.
>>
>> For decades, the UAW tugged wages upward. In 1960, a UAW member made
>> 16 percent more than the average American manufacturing worker. By
>> 2006, the figure was 74 percent. Today, new hires in the UAW make
>> about 20 percent less than the average.
>>
>> (snip)
> Do you know what 14 an hour is? Try buying a new home on that or
> providing for a family.
> 14.00 an hour is no more than 1.50 an hour in 1970 or less. You do the
> math on inflation/devaluation.
> It is just wage slavery the reason the globalist worship Mexico and
> Chjina.

companies don't pay salaries based on what it takes to provide for a family
or buy a house,they pay based on what the JOB is worth.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
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