New Hires in UAW Now Get Just $14 an hour
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From: Dave Head on 27 Jun 2010 06:55 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:39:59 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:00:43 -0400, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> >wrote: > >>Well, yeah, but that's another challenge. Why not just get rid of the >>tax that is chasing all our jobs overseas as a first step? That would >>eventually solve the illegal alien problem because we'd eventually >>have so much economic activity that we could employ 'em all... and tax >>them too... and after that our economy would just keep growing. We >>could throw open the gates to immigration again, and eventuallly we'd >>have so many of those - immigrants - that we could employ them too and >>tax them too. > >Do you really believe the illegal alien problem is about jobs? Or >even about the illegal immigrants? I don't. Why do YOU think they come here, then? They keep SAYING they only want to work. Of course, now there is the people that live along the border that are getting screwed by the drug cartels, but they could also just move deeper into Mexico to avoid that, if they wanted to, but not as effectively as they could by coming here. But I think that it is mostly about the money.
From: Howard Brazee on 27 Jun 2010 07:42 On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:52:48 -0400, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >You sound like they guys on Fox News. Eliminate the minimum wage? You >want people working for $0.25/hr or what? That's what would happen, >and would hasten the descent into a country with only the very very >rich and the very very poor and nobody in between. Lots of entry level jobs (McDonalds) pay more than minimum wage. Supply and demand won't drop the wage to less than what people are willing to work for. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 27 Jun 2010 07:45 On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:55:34 -0400, Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote: >>Do you really believe the illegal alien problem is about jobs? Or >>even about the illegal immigrants? I don't. > >Why do YOU think they come here, then? They keep SAYING they only >want to work. Of course, now there is the people that live along the >border that are getting screwed by the drug cartels, but they could >also just move deeper into Mexico to avoid that, if they wanted to, >but not as effectively as they could by coming here. But I think that >it is mostly about the money. That's why they come - but that's not why they are resented. And if there were twice as many jobs Americans don't want, and there were twice as many foreigners taking those jobs, the resentment would be bigger. The illegal alien problem isn't about some illegal taking the job I wanted. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Bobster on 27 Jun 2010 10:49 "lil abner" <@daisy.mae> wrote in message news:246Vn.127$0A5.31(a)newsfe22.iad... > Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers wrote: >> >> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jF7BKtnASmpRaPV00FqD2EjFij3wD9GDU8DO4 >> >> New hires in UAW no longer tops in manufacturing >> By DEE-ANN DURBIN and TOM KRISHER (AP) ? 6 days ago >> >> DETROIT ? Every day at a General Motors plant near Lansing, Mich., >> workers drive hundreds of Buick Enclaves ? many with leather seats for >> seven and on-board video systems ? off the assembly line. >> >> Driving one home would be tough for the plant's newest workers, whose >> annual pay is less than the $35,000 it costs to buy even the cheapest >> Enclave. Newly hired members of the United Auto Workers at GM, Ford >> and Chrysler earn about $14 per hour, half what veterans make under >> their current contract. >> >> It's a far cry from the days when the union autoworker had one of the >> sweetest deals in American labor. And within the Enclave plant near >> Lansing, the disparity creates mixed emotions, including some >> resentment, among the 130 recent hires. >> >> "It's difficult to look across the line at someone getting paid more >> for doing the same job you're doing," said Steve Barnas, the plant's >> union bargaining chairman. >> >> For decades, the UAW tugged wages upward. In 1960, a UAW member made >> 16 percent more than the average American manufacturing worker. By >> 2006, the figure was 74 percent. Today, new hires in the UAW make >> about 20 percent less than the average. >> >> (snip) > Do you know what 14 an hour is? Try buying a new home on that or providing > for a family. > 14.00 an hour is no more than 1.50 an hour in 1970 or less. You do the > math on inflation/devaluation. > It is just wage slavery the reason the globalist worship Mexico and > Chjina. In Detroit you could buy an entire block of houses on $14/hr.
From: Ray Fischer on 27 Jun 2010 13:51
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > Dave Head <rally2xs(a)att.net> >>Well, yeah, but that's another challenge. Why not just get rid of the >>tax that is chasing all our jobs overseas as a first step? That would >>eventually solve the illegal alien problem because we'd eventually >>have so much economic activity that we could employ 'em all... and tax >>them too... and after that our economy would just keep growing. We >>could throw open the gates to immigration again, and eventuallly we'd >>have so many of those - immigrants - that we could employ them too and >>tax them too. > >Do you really believe the illegal alien problem is about jobs? Or >even about the illegal immigrants? I don't. Neither do I. I think it's aboout race. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |