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From: Tim.. on 8 Feb 2007 04:31

"David R" <david_r(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> <Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
>> fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
>> happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
>> there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
>> reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
>> the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
>> to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
>> many attempts to start it.
>> I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
>> at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
>> Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
>> been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
>> existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
>> place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
>> I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
>> I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
>> the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
>> if it is.
>> Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
>> Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
>> Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
>> repair?
>
> Now for attempted help:
>
> What happens when you try to start it? It turns over as usual, but just
> wont 'catch'? Micras, especially older models (what reg-plate does your
> begin with?) basically can't be started, driven a very short distance,
> stopped, and re-started. This is because the engine has been over-fuelled;
> the only solution is to wait. If you try tomorrow, you may find it's ok.
>
> Keep in mind that if it's on a hill, I imagine this may make a difference.
> If it's manual, get the car facing down the hill, and try to bump start it
> tomorrow by leaving it in Neutral, rolling it down the hill, and try to
> start it. Might take a long try to work; if you find it fails initially,
> or nearly catches, touch the accelerator, and don't stop turning.
>
> You can realisticaly turnover the car for about 20 seconds, but you don't
> want to drain the battery from re-trying this over and over.

As others have said, its probably flooded.

Ensure you keep the accelorator wide open whilst cranking, either fuse in or
out, to allow maximum airflow to dilute the rich mixture.

It will work better if you crank in long bursts than short ones, and if it
does catch, hold it at 2-3000rpm for afew seconds to fully clear when it
does start.

Although the micra's are well renowned for easily flooding and a no-start,
I'd still recommend you have the HT components and plugs checked if not
replaced, and / or the car serviced if its due.

Tim..


From: Tiit_Helimut on 8 Feb 2007 06:32
Ok I had a look inside, but I'm not entirely sure which fuse in the
fuel pump fuse. The cover to the fuse box is labelled with which fuse
is which, but none of the fuses are labelled "fuel pump", so any ideas
as to what it would be labelled? Thanks!

From: David Taylor on 8 Feb 2007 06:45
On 2007-02-08, Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com <Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I had a look inside, but I'm not entirely sure which fuse in the
> fuel pump fuse. The cover to the fuse box is labelled with which fuse
> is which, but none of the fuses are labelled "fuel pump", so any ideas
> as to what it would be labelled? Thanks!

The handbook should tell you what fuse number does what.

--
David Taylor
From: Tiit_Helimut on 8 Feb 2007 06:56
Unfortunately the handbook only states where the fusebox is and how to
remove the fuses, but nothing about which fuse is which. I'll get the
fusebox cover and tell you what the fuses are labelled as. I'll post
again in a sec!

From: Tiit_Helimut on 8 Feb 2007 07:08
Right. The cover shows 11 fuses, not all of which there are fuses for
in my fusebox.

FL30A - ABS ACTR
10A - TAIL
15A - H/LAMP RH
15A - H/LAMP LH
FL25A - POWER WINDOW
FL25A - RAD FAN
FL30A - ABS MTR
FL30A - IGN SW
FL25A - ENGINE CONT
FL65A - BATT
15A - COND FAN

That's all the fuses it lists, so I hope that's useful. Once I take
the right fuse out and crank the engine with the accelerator floored,
what will I expect to hear (will it sound any different than when the
fuse was in)? Thanks!

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