From: Tiit_Helimut on
Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
many attempts to start it.
I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
if it is.
Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
repair?

Thanks for your time and help.

From: David R on
<Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170873127.072824.240980(a)v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
> fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
> happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
> there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
> reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
> the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
> to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
> many attempts to start it.
> I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
> at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
> Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
> been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
> existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
> place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
> I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
> I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
> the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
> if it is.
> Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
> Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
> Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
> repair?

Push the car more than 1 quarter of a mile from your house. Then they will
come out. If they accuse you of lying, you can say this is a seperate
incident, and thus must be treated as such. Providing you didn't give any
details, this should all work fine.

On the other hand, you're better off fixing it yourself with advice from
here, as you will learn things :)


From: Chris Whelan on
Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
> fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
> happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
> there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
> reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
> the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
> to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
> many attempts to start it.
> I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
> at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
> Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
> been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
> existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
> place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
> I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
> I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
> the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
> if it is.
> Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
> Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
> Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
> repair?
>
> Thanks for your time and help.

The standard trick on flooded Micras is to locate and remove the fuse for
the fuel pump, then crank the engine several times in 15 second bursts with
the accelerator pedal held to the floor. Once the fuse is then replaced,
the engine should start easily.

It is very common for Micras (and others) to flood if run briefly from cold,
then stopped.

If you regularly stall at that junction, either the car needs a service, you
should allow the engine to warm up a bit before setting off, or your
driving technique need adjusting :-)

WRT to learning some basic maintenance, have a look to see if any local
colleges offer short courses.

If you want to see if a Haynes manual will be of any help to you in the
future, they are often available at local libraries.

HTH

Chris
--
Remove prejudice to reply.
From: David R on
<Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170873127.072824.240980(a)v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
> fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
> happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
> there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
> reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
> the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
> to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
> many attempts to start it.
> I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
> at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
> Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
> been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
> existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
> place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
> I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
> I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
> the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
> if it is.
> Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
> Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
> Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
> repair?

Now for attempted help:

What happens when you try to start it? It turns over as usual, but just wont
'catch'? Micras, especially older models (what reg-plate does your begin
with?) basically can't be started, driven a very short distance, stopped,
and re-started. This is because the engine has been over-fuelled; the only
solution is to wait. If you try tomorrow, you may find it's ok.

Keep in mind that if it's on a hill, I imagine this may make a difference.
If it's manual, get the car facing down the hill, and try to bump start it
tomorrow by leaving it in Neutral, rolling it down the hill, and try to
start it. Might take a long try to work; if you find it fails initially, or
nearly catches, touch the accelerator, and don't stop turning.

You can realisticaly turnover the car for about 20 seconds, but you don't
want to drain the battery from re-trying this over and over.


From: Ian Stirling on
Chris Whelan <cawhelan(a)prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:
> Tiit_Helimut(a)hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi there. I got into my micra today to head off to work and it started
>> fine. I pulled away and stopped at the junction of my street, which
>> happens to be quite steep, so engage the handbreak. I waited until
>> there was a gap in the traffic, get the car to the bite and put a
>> reasonable amount of gas in (no more than I usually do). I disengaged
>> the handbreak and the car stalled, which isn't that odd. When I went
>> to start the car again, it wouldn't start, and so it remains after
>> many attempts to start it.
>> I am covered by the AA but not for home start, as I couldn't afford it
>> at the time, and now they are quoting me a lot to upgrade my cover.
>> Unfortunately I haven't owned the car for very long, and I haven't
>> been driving for long either, so my techincal knowledge of cars is non-
>> existent. I'm a student so I can't afford to have it towed to a repair
>> place and be ripped off, though I can afford the extra AA cover but
>> I'm hoping that it wont come to that.
>> I've been reading other posts and it sounds like I may have flooded
>> the engine, but I have no idea if that is the case or how to fix it,
>> if it is.
>> Is there anywhere that offers advice, first of all on the insides of
>> Nissan Micras (is Haynes the only one?), and secondly on repairs.
>> Since I'm not technically minded will I have to resort to the AA home
>> repair?
>>
>> Thanks for your time and help.
>
> The standard trick on flooded Micras is to locate and remove the fuse for
> the fuel pump, then crank the engine several times in 15 second bursts with
> the accelerator pedal held to the floor. Once the fuse is then replaced,
> the engine should start easily.

Using a key without a transponder to try to start it is equivalent to
removing the fuse.
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