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From: "WindsorFox [SS]>" on 2 Apr 2010 13:29 Jim Warman wrote: > Fastest off the line? I don't ever recall a Beetle with "neck-snapping" > acceleration... > Not that was 100% stock anyway... -- .. "Uhoh, well that shouldn't have happened..." - Mike Holmes
From: Frank ess on 2 Apr 2010 16:07 Hank wrote: > In article <ucqdnfNqqcmG-ijWnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, > Frank ess <frank(a)fshe2fs.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962. >>>>> >>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti." >>>>> > I think you're a bit late when talking about "hot" Studebakers. > The 1951-52 Commander weren't too sleeply, and the '53 was even > better. That's with a little Studie V-8. They shoved a 352 Packard > engine in the Golden Hawk in '56, which was more "muscle car" in > that it would go fast in a straight line, but going around corners > was a bit hazy >>>> >>>> >>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958. >>>> >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel> >>> >>> Well, if you want to play that game, you could also argue for the >>> '55 Chrysler 300, '56 Studebaker Golden Hawk, or '57 Chevy >>> (remember when a brand had only one basic body style?) with the >>> fuel injected 283/283. >>> Of course by '57 there were lots of players in the horsepower >>> game. (both Ford and Studebaker were offering supercharged >>> engines from the factory in '57... yes really!) >>> >>> I guess the Chevy really doesn't count though because at least the >>> definition of a "muscle car" that seems to fit most cars that >>> qualify is that it's a smaller body style with an engine from a >>> larger chassis shoved into it and possibly hopped up in the >>> process, and the Chevy was considered to be a "full-sized" car >>> with no larger option. Now if >>> they'd used a warmed up Caddy engine or something like that... By >>> that definition the Golden Hawk comes the closest to fitting, >>> being a Studebaker "sports hardtop" body that was originally >>> designed for a >>> Stude 232 but with the big Packard 352 V-8 shoehorned into the >>> engine bay. >>> >>> nate >> >> I seem to remember the Buick Century from 1953 or 1954 ... > > Well, shove you memory about the Buick Century back to 1936. If you > want to define a "muscle car" as a big engine in a light body, that > was the original Century, > My memory is substantial and durable, but even with a good shove doesn't go back that far. Let's let the "conversation" return to the hysterical arm-wavers. Nothing worthwhile to be gained here. Cheers! -- Frank ess
From: Grumpy AuContraire on 2 Apr 2010 19:17 WindsorFox<[SS]> wrote: > Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >> Speeders & Drunk Drivers Kill Kids wrote: >>> boyari2 <boyari2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:2008b48e-5e66-4dbb-8416- >>> f5e14c810fcb(a)35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: >>> >>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators, >>>> isn't it? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://surftofind.com/car >>>> >>> >>> Hey stupid. There's no such thing as a cool car. All cars are super- >>> dangerous but useful tools. Only a psychopath loves cars. Bet you >>> love child molesters too. >>> >>> Get help please. >> >> >> >> <snort> >> >> I suppose that you also believe in human caused climate change, >> horseless carriages, whale oil lanterns too. >> >> Gotta luv them thar' stupid imbecilic geniuses... >> >> JT >> > > Which brings up an interesting thought. If half of the car drivers > switched to horses, how much CO2 and methane would replace the lost CO? > Less than 50% of what is currently being spewed in DC... <G> JT
From: Grumpy AuContraire on 2 Apr 2010 19:21 Tegger wrote: > Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in > news:bqqdnTzrbYBc3SjWnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > >> boyari2 wrote: >>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators, >>> isn't it? >>> >>> >>> http://surftofind.com/car >> >> >> Whatta joke... >> >> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962. >> >> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti." >> > > > Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958. > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk. <G> JT
From: Nate Nagel on 2 Apr 2010 20:27
On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > Tegger wrote: >> Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in >> news:bqqdnTzrbYBc3SjWnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d(a)giganews.com: >> >>> boyari2 wrote: >>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators, >>>> isn't it? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://surftofind.com/car >>> >>> >>> Whatta joke... >>> >>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962. >>> >>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti." >>> >> >> >> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958. >> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel> > > > Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk. > > <G> > > JT > No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news article about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it seems to have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently purchased another! that's dedication...) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |