From: Matthew Russotto on
In article <gl4317-C82827.21001319042010(a)feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Glen Labah <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>But the real best solution would be to dump the hot water into downtown
>New York City. There's dozens of buildings with heat plants there that
>boil water. A bit of extra heat from the outside world would do them
>some good.

Trying to moving low-grade heat 40 miles probably isn't going to work.
--
The problem with socialism is there's always
someone with less ability and more need.
From: Tony Harding on
On 04/05/10 23:50, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>> In article <hpbj1e$m32$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Stewart"
>> <gortamus(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Left wing socialist alert!
>>>
>>> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>>
>>
>> Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
>> misc.transport.rail.americas.
>> (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is posted).
>>
>
>
>
> What???
>
> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???

FEH! Light weight/small carbon footprint bicycles only!

:)
From: Tony Harding on
On 04/06/10 02:27, gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> In article<68-dnfYeC5TuMyfWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Grumpy
> AuContraire<GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote:
>
>> gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>> In article<hpbj1e$m32$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Stewart"
>>> <gortamus(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Left wing socialist alert!
>>>>
>>>> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
> misc.transport.rail.americas.
>>> (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is posted).
>>>
>>
>> What???
>>
>> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???
>
>
> Ha! Those are only driven by wanna-be socialists. Too much computer
> technology, and made by corporations. The most advanced technology
> allowed near the homes of true socialists are the products of the Soviet
> Diesel Computer Cooperative.

HUH? Did the SDCC survive the collapse of the USSR in 1991 (or thereabouts)?

Did the really have diesel powered computers? That could be cool!
From: Tony Harding on
On 04/07/10 22:35, Stewart wrote:
> <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gl4317-0504102327440001(a)69-30-9-110.pxd.easystreet.com...
>> In article<68-dnfYeC5TuMyfWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Grumpy
>> AuContraire<GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote:
>>
>>> gl4317(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> In article<hpbj1e$m32$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Stewart"
>>>> <gortamus(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Left wing socialist alert!
>>>>>
>>>>> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
>> misc.transport.rail.americas.
>>>> (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is
>>>> posted).
>>>>
>>>
>>> What???
>>>
>>> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???
>>
>>
>> Ha! Those are only driven by wanna-be socialists. Too much computer
>> technology, and made by corporations. The most advanced technology
>> allowed near the homes of true socialists are the products of the
>> Soviet
>> Diesel Computer Cooperative.
>>
>> --
>> -Glennl
>> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam, and most e-mail
>> sent to this address are simply lost in the vast mess.
>
> I like the all electrics to reduce "carbon footprint". plug 'em in to
> an outlet fed by coal burning power generation......

True, but it *is* subject to change. <I hope>

:)
From: Tony Harding on
On 04/09/10 07:35, Bob Willard wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>> dgk wrote:
>>> Right, but the question is how to best deliver people where they want
>>> to go with the least harmful impact on the environment. Is that a bad
>>> goal?
>>
>> Nope, not a bad goal at all but... Any big advance in technology will
>> come from innovation from the private sector, not guv'ment mandate. It
>> always has and always will. Guv'ment is nothing but a giant
>> interference entity.
>
> It is OK to be grumpy, Grumpy, but the above is a half-truth. While
> most of the big advances in technology do, as you say, come from the
> private sector, many of those biggies were the result, direct or
> indirect, of gov't funding. Networking and semiconductors and
> computers come to mind. And, since this is a car-focused NG, let
> me add that many of the advances under the hood are based on
> computers or semiconductors; technologies that were, in turn,
> greatly pushed by gov't funding.
>
> Now it is my turn to be grumpy, by opining that -- at least in
> the US -- the private non-pharma sector is so intently focused
> on short-term ROI, that it is incapable of adequately funding
> the long-term R&D needed to achieve those great leaps forward.
> And that is why gov't funding, to the private sector and to
> universities, can lead to real technological progress.
>
> Admittedly, it is easy to find examples of gov't funding that
> is wasteful and weird. But, in the large-cap end of the
> private sector, spending that is wasteful and/or political is
> also pretty common. Gov't folks do not have exclusive rights
> to insanity or inanity.
>
> {Caveat: in the first few and in the last few years of my
> four-decade career in computer engineering, my paycheck was
> dependent upon gov't contracts. Yes, *that* gov't.}

Cool! And good post!