From: jim on 14 Apr 2010 18:09 "E. Meyer" wrote: > On 4/14/10 11:34 AM, in article iZudncdR6rQbc1jWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)bright.net, > "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote: > > > > > > > "E. Meyer" wrote: > > > >> > >>> > >>> There is no "reason the US doesn't have nuclear power". The US has > >>> nuclear power - more than any other country. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> OK. When was the last new nuclear power plant opened? Part two: Relative > >> to the date of the Three mile island mess, when was construction on that > >> last plant started? > >> > >> There were some plants in the works at the time of Three Mile Island and > >> some of them went on to completion, but there has been little to no new > >> activity since then. > > > > Three mile island had an effect, but not what you claimed and your > > statement > > that the US has no nuclear power is pretty far from reality. The US is > > generating > > more electricity from nuclear reactors than any other country. > > > > > > The attributions are getting messed up here. I was responding to chuckcar's > response to AZNomad where he stated: Ok, to be fair, everybody who said the US has no nuclear power was also incorrect.. > > > I didn't say anything about bringing welfare back. I simply agreed with > your assessment of the economics. My assessment of the economics was that the only way there ever will be new nuclear power plants built is if Washington brings the government guarantees that got the plants that are operating now built. There has never been a single nuclear power plant built anywhere in the world where the investors are expected to take the financial risk associated with a failure like 3 mile island. That is the simple reason no plants have been built in the last 30 years and it is unlikely that there ever will be any built until the government goes back to the system of picking up the tab when something goes wrong. -jim
From: E. Meyer on 15 Apr 2010 10:51 On 4/14/10 5:09 PM, in article W7-dnbFR6M2WoFvWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)bright.net, "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote: > > > "E. Meyer" wrote: > >> On 4/14/10 11:34 AM, in article iZudncdR6rQbc1jWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)bright.net, >> "jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> "E. Meyer" wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no "reason the US doesn't have nuclear power". The US has >>>>> nuclear power - more than any other country. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> OK. When was the last new nuclear power plant opened? Part two: Relative >>>> to the date of the Three mile island mess, when was construction on that >>>> last plant started? >>>> >>>> There were some plants in the works at the time of Three Mile Island and >>>> some of them went on to completion, but there has been little to no new >>>> activity since then. >>> >>> Three mile island had an effect, but not what you claimed and your >>> statement >>> that the US has no nuclear power is pretty far from reality. The US is >>> generating >>> more electricity from nuclear reactors than any other country. >>> >>> >> >> The attributions are getting messed up here. I was responding to chuckcar's >> response to AZNomad where he stated: > > Ok, to be fair, everybody who said the US has no nuclear power was also > incorrect.. > >> >> >> I didn't say anything about bringing welfare back. I simply agreed with >> your assessment of the economics. > > My assessment of the economics was that the only way there ever will be new > nuclear > power plants built is if Washington brings the government guarantees that got > the > plants that are operating now built. There has never been a single nuclear > power > plant built anywhere in the world where the investors are expected to take the > financial risk associated with a failure like 3 mile island. That is the > simple > reason no plants have been built in the last 30 years and it is unlikely that > there > ever will be any built until the government goes back to the system of picking > up > the tab when something goes wrong. > > -jim I think the case needs to be made that it is properly the government's responsibility to maintain and regulate infrastructure, be it transportation, power, water, communications, whatever. How it goes about it, through outsourcing, tax incentives, immunity, public works, etc., is a matter for the politicians and voters and whatever method is chosen does not relieve it of the responsibility to make sure the necessary infrastructure is in place and working. Not so much a case of welfare as it is a case of government doing its job.
From: cuhulin on 16 Apr 2010 17:57 Some of those off roader people, they install an air compressor under the hood of their off road vehicles, for airing up tires/whatever.Usually it is a belt driven air compressor via the engine. cuhulin
From: cuhulin on 18 Apr 2010 18:16 Uranium is so Last Century - Enter Thorium, the New Green Nuke. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=287736 cuhulin
From: chuckcar on 18 Apr 2010 20:06
jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote in news:W7-dnbFR6M2WoFvWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)bright.net: > > > "E. Meyer" wrote: > >> On 4/14/10 11:34 AM, in article >> iZudncdR6rQbc1jWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)bright.net, "jim" >> <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >> The attributions are getting messed up here. I was responding to >> chuckcar's response to AZNomad where he stated: > > Ok, to be fair, everybody who said the US has no nuclear power was > also incorrect.. > >> Yes, that was *you* AFAIK. Misunderstanding my post. Message-ID: <Xns9D5A87A097B3Achuck(a)127.0.0.1> Your reply: Message-ID: <jY2dnVLL7a4rj1vWnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d(a)bright.net> To a post where I talk about per capita usage and never mention *anything* about lack or amount of US nuclear power. Nor did Mr. Meyer ever state such. If you can give me a message ID showing someone else stating the US has no nuclear power is this thread who you replied to, I of course will retract the above. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) ) |