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From: boltar2003 on 21 Apr 2010 11:35 On 21 Apr 2010 14:56:06 GMT Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >saying: > >>>>>Yup, that's it. Cosmetics. There _can_ be an unsprung weight >>>>>difference, but often (for strength) alloys are heavier than steels - >>>>>and a couple of kg of unsprung weight makes sod-all difference anyway, >>>>>especially given the thoroughly shite MacPherson strut & torsion beam >>>>>suspension on the typical car. > >>>> Theres no reason that manufacturers couldn't make good looking >>>> stainless steel wheels. They just choose not to bother for whatever >>>> reason. > >>>Apart from expense and weight, obviously. > >> Expensive? Steel? Are you having a laugh? >> >> As for the weight, you even said yourself that steel is stronger than >> alloys for a given weight so why would they be heavier? > >Clue: Mild Steel != Stainless Steel. You think stainless steel is heavier do you? Oh dear. As for the expense, last time I looked it was pretty damn cheap. B2003
From: boltar2003 on 21 Apr 2010 11:43 On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:21:40 +0100 Clive George <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >> Expensive? Steel? Are you having a laugh? > >Stainless is quite a lot more expensive than mild, Its still dirt cheap compared to a lot of alloy metals. >> As for the weight, you even said yourself that steel is stronger than alloys >> for a given weight so why would they be heavier? > >Al Alloys will generally be stronger than steel for a given weight. What >he actually said is alloy wheels are often heavier than steel wheels, >which is a different thing. Listen , this isn't complicated. A steel wheel has a certain weight because thats the mass of steel required for the strength required for the wheel. If its lighter than an alloy wheel of the same strength what does that tell you? B2003
From: Conor on 21 Apr 2010 11:55 On 21/04/2010 12:03, Roger Mills wrote: > In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Bod > <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> My daughter in law rang me to change a wheel(puncture) on her car >> earlier this morning. Before the call, she asked *10* men in her >> offic, if they would do it for her. ALL 10 of them said they couldn't >> do it or that they didn't want to get their hands dirty! >> >> Bunch of tarts! >> >> Took me 15 mins to change the wheel. >> >> Bod > > > So why didn't she do it herself? Certainly if it was my missus she would've. Then again, she's into car modding. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Adrian on 21 Apr 2010 12:07 boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>> Theres no reason that manufacturers couldn't make good looking >>>>> stainless steel wheels. They just choose not to bother for whatever >>>>> reason. >>>>Apart from expense and weight, obviously. >>> Expensive? Steel? Are you having a laugh? >>> As for the weight, you even said yourself that steel is stronger than >>> alloys for a given weight so why would they be heavier? >>Clue: Mild Steel != Stainless Steel. > You think stainless steel is heavier do you? Oh dear. Compared to mild steel? Yes, I know it is. > As for the expense, last time I looked it was pretty damn cheap. Compared to mild steel? Here's another clue for you - my father used to run a company specialising in stainless steel fabrication.
From: Clive George on 21 Apr 2010 12:25
On 21/04/2010 16:43, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:21:40 +0100 > Clive George<clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >>> Expensive? Steel? Are you having a laugh? >> >> Stainless is quite a lot more expensive than mild, > > Its still dirt cheap compared to a lot of alloy metals. The ones used in wheels? Yes, boring stainless will be dirt cheap compared to the stuff they use in jet engines (posh steel alloys), but that's not what we're talking about is it. >>> As for the weight, you even said yourself that steel is stronger than alloys >>> for a given weight so why would they be heavier? >> >> Al Alloys will generally be stronger than steel for a given weight. What >> he actually said is alloy wheels are often heavier than steel wheels, >> which is a different thing. > > Listen , this isn't complicated. A steel wheel has a certain weight because > thats the mass of steel required for the strength required for the wheel. > If its lighter than an alloy wheel of the same strength what does that tell > you? It tells me the alloy wheel isn't designed for light weight. It'll be designed for cosmetics. |