From: Built_Well on 14 Oct 2007 02:32 Ray O wrote: > IMO, paying extra for lifetime wheel balance is a waste of money because > wheels rarely go out of balance once they have been balanced. ======== That's what I thought. I've thought for years that the need to balance tires is rare, but then one of the techs at Walmart the other day was telling me that I should have the tires balanced every other rotation, because tires easily become unbalanced, like from dips into potholes and other reasons. I know I had my old Tercel's tires balanced at Ewers once, and they were never the same again.
From: Scott in Florida on 14 Oct 2007 09:20 On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:39:19 -0500, Built_Well <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >My local Target store doesn't carry a lot of >motor oil, but it does have some. What surprised >me was all the 5w-30 Mobil 1 quarts were API SL, >the old standard. The only API SM they had for >Mobil 1 was 10w-30. > >An unsuspecting consumer would easily pick up the >old stuff. It was priced the same as the SM, $6 >per quart I personally don't do business with Target. They kicked out the bell ringers at Christmas time a few years ago. Any enterprise that has no use for the Salvation Army gets none of my business. I've corresponded with the CEO to tell him why. He must get a lot of letters about that screw up, but so far...he has not relented. -- Scott in Florida
From: Scott in Florida on 14 Oct 2007 09:22 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:43:58 -0500, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote: > >"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:47119e9f$0$68449$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... >> Built_Well wrote: >>> >>> Ray O wrote: >>> >>> > The Sears Auto Center near my house always installs wheels with >>> > a torque wrench and they make a note on the customer's receipt >>> > that wheel torque should be re-checked after 100 miles. I did >>> > re-check the torque once, and it was right on. >>> ======== >>> >>> Ray, I would have guessed you rotate your own tires, since you >>> change your own cars' oil. >>> >>> I do know that both Sears and Walmart offer /free/ /lifetime/ >>> tire balancing and rotation after you pay for your first, initial >>> balancing and rotation. The cost at the two stores is between >>> $30 and $45, but then, forever after, your balancing and rotations >>> are totally free for that set of tires. The tires don't even have >>> to come from Sears or Walmart. >>> >>> Is that the reason you let Sears rotate your cars' tires? Do you >>> ever do it yourself? >> ======== >> >> Just to clarify, I would have guessed you rotate your cars' tires >> yourself to be sure the rotations are done properly, accurately, and >> with high quality. >> > >I rotate my cars' tires myself because I can do it in about 5 minutes as >opposed to the 15 minutes it takes to drive to Sears, 1 hour waiting for the >car to be worked on, and 15 minutes driving back. The local Toyota dealer >is about 3 minutes away so less time is spent in transit, but I'd still have >to wait 30 minutes to a half hour for the work to be done. As for doing the >job properly, accurately, and with high quality, tire rotations are not >rocket science, and I'd trust both Sears and the local Toyota dealer to do >the job properly. The benefit of having it done at Sam's club is they balance the wheels every time they rotate them. That is a gigantic plus to me. -- Scott in Florida
From: Scott in Florida on 14 Oct 2007 09:23 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:32:00 -0500, Built_Well <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Ray O wrote: > >> IMO, paying extra for lifetime wheel balance is a waste of money because >> wheels rarely go out of balance once they have been balanced. >======== > >That's what I thought. I've thought for years that the need to balance >tires is rare, but then one of the techs at Walmart the other day was >telling me that I should have the tires balanced every other rotation, >because tires easily become unbalanced, like from dips into potholes and >other reasons. > >I know I had my old Tercel's tires balanced at Ewers once, and they >were never the same again. I hate to disagree with Ray, but at least in the case of the wheels on my '92 Corolla, they DO go out of balance. Just a little is very irritating, especially on a light car like mine. -- Scott in Florida
From: Nate Nagel on 14 Oct 2007 09:28
Built_Well wrote: > My local Target store doesn't carry a lot of > motor oil, but it does have some. What surprised > me was all the 5w-30 Mobil 1 quarts were API SL, > the old standard. The only API SM they had for > Mobil 1 was 10w-30. > > An unsuspecting consumer would easily pick up the > old stuff. It was priced the same as the SM, $6 > per quart I'd rather use SL than SM, SM standard allows less ZDDP. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |