From: cuhulin on
If you remove that radiator cap while the engine and radiator fluid are
still hot, you won't be worried about radiator fluid for a while.
cuhulin

From: Retired VIP on
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:56:36 -0700, Built_Well
<Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ray O wrote:
>> "Scott in Florida" <JustAskl(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:5164h35k9ba5rg1lhmnuph4i00hjpf3fcu(a)4ax.com...
>> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:32:00 -0500, Built_Well
>> > <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
snipped a bit
>
>The book "Auto Upkeep" also recommends anti-seize compound
>to reduce rust. Unfortunately, the tech at my Toyota
>dealership did not apply any compound to the wheels/hubs.
>He just removed the tires and rotated them. I watched
>the tech carefully.
>
>So that $1.75 I was charged by the dealership for
>"miscellaneous shop supplies" definitely was
>/not/ for the anti-seize compound. It also was
>not for the drain plug washer, a.k.a. "gasket," which
>was itemized on the bill separately as "gasket" (don't
>know why they don't just call it a washer; I suppose
>the nearly 2 dollars they charged for the washer
>makes high-falutin' "gasket" sound better ;-)
>
>So the $1.75 for "miscellaneous shop supplies" could
>only have been for the cup's worth of blue water
>they put into my windshield washer fluid reservoir ;-)

Now you know why I never take my car to the dealer for routine
service. Overhead, which is what "Miscellaneous shop supplies" is,
should be included in the hourly rate or the job rate the shop
charges. However, if it is included in the rate, then shops that pay
their mechanics a percentage of the rate (as most dealers do) would
have to share with the mechanic. The washer/gasket they put on your
car is a part and will be billed as a part (might even have it's own
part/stock number).

As for the anti-seize compound, you shouldn't need it unless you have
aluminum wheels mounted on steel rotors. If you do, then you better
use it. That combination can seize together in just a matter of
months. But steel-on-steel won't seize together to the point where a
kick on the tire won't free it up.

Jack


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From: Ray O on

"Retired VIP" <Jackj14321(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snipped>
> As for the anti-seize compound, you shouldn't need it unless you have
> aluminum wheels mounted on steel rotors. If you do, then you better
> use it. That combination can seize together in just a matter of
> months. But steel-on-steel won't seize together to the point where a
> kick on the tire won't free it up.
>
> Jack
>

Steel-on-steel probably won't seize together, but the rust buildup can
prevent the wheel from being installed correctly, causing a vibration like
an out-of-balance condition, so it is worth applying a thin coat of
Anti-Seize.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Ray O on

"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192542996.699226.105140(a)i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
<snipped>
>It also was
> not for the drain plug washer, a.k.a. "gasket," which
> was itemized on the bill separately as "gasket" (don't
> know why they don't just call it a washer; I suppose
> the nearly 2 dollars they charged for the washer
> makes high-falutin' "gasket" sound better ;-)
>

The part is called a gasket because it is a gasket and not a washer.
Gaskets and washers serve different purposes, even though they may have a
similar shape.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Ray O on

"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192543975.140415.130380(a)e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
> How likely is it that the Camry's wheels/hubs are
> starting to rust as we speak because the tech did
> not apply anti-seize compound, like Ray and "Auto
> Upkeep" recommend?
>

The chance that the part of the hub where the center of the wheel fits is
about 100%. It is not necessary to apply anti-seize every time the wheels
are rotated; once coated, I have never had to re-apply anti-seize. If you
do not have Anti-Seize, you can use high temp wheel bearing/disc brake
grease, but that stuff tends to attract dirt. Do not use WD-40 or white
lithium grease as that stuff will run when it gets hot.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)